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By David Poland poland@moviecitynews.com

Circle Jerkin'

When I saw that Nikki Finke was running Jon Peters’ book proposal, I instantly knew four things: 1) I didn’t care, 2) I wouldn’t read it, 3) Someone trying to fuck with Jon Peters had sent it to Nikki, and 4) It was not news in any sane definition of the word, but 100% gossip about a book that would be 90% gossip when published.
Now, I see that Anne Thompson is jumping into it, following Patrick Goldstein jumping into it, because Kim Masters had already jumped into it.
Who got it first? Why was Nikki falsely claiming an Exclusive? How impressed Patrick was…
But again… the scary thing about this for me – given that Nikki often insists or implies she is leading on stories that she is not leading on… that Kim Masters often runs authoritative pieces weeks and months after it has been covered elsewhere in depth… and that Patrick seems unable to separate what news is and what gossip is at all these days, except that what starts on the web is gossip and what starts in Old Media (or with old media writers lashed to the mast of new media) is news

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4 Responses to “Circle Jerkin'”

  1. anghus says:

    So, the story that Peters is releasing a tell all book news, but the content of the pitch is not?
    Is that the line?
    PETERS PLANS TO RELEASE TELL ALL BOOK = News
    PETERS PLANS TO RELEASE TELL ALL BOOK AND HERE ARE DETAILS = Not news?
    Because posting excerpts from a book proposal is nothing more than restating facts. The fact that you deem it as “gossip” seems to come more from the source than the content?
    Last year the National Enquirer ran stories about Jon Edwards affair. It wasn’t until it spilled into mainstream news that it was considered actual news and not gossip. So does what changes the story from “news” to “not news/gossip” more reflective of the material or the source?

  2. David Poland says:

    Well… the first scary thing is that we’re now – and I really mean We, as in a majority of editorial thinkers – are discussing John Edwards and Jon Peters as though there is some similarity on inherent news significance.
    A presidential candidate who is running, in part, under the banner of his brave and intellegent wife’s cancer battle cheating on his wife AND having a child as a result of that infidelity is most certainly news. The notion of privacy is overwhelmed by the request for public acceptance – votes – by Edwards.
    The great question of that situation is why the media failed to tell a story that was not a well held secret. In fact, it was inexcuseable. And I would suggest that a part of that was Old Media closing ranks and reverting to 60s rules in a misguided attempt to maintain the old school ways.
    Jon Peters? Barely news that he is writing a book at all. If it turned out, upon completion, to be an insightful book from one of Hollywood’s great all-time hustlers… there might be news in there. But trying to get a book deal… not news.
    Publishing his pitch? Immoral, on its face. Probably couldn’t be prosecuted as illegal, but bad pool. Work product, assuming itbis not of real significance to the public good or bad, not just what we want to know, should not be considered media fodder. That is just gossip. And we should be ashamed of ourselves as a profession, wrestling over who got the first e-mail from someone out to bury Peters and decided to run it.
    An industry is in the middle of real, serious issues that has cost thousands of jobs and will cost many, many more and what is the hubbub? A busted testicle and whether we will read what position Barbra liked after a fight.
    Blech!

  3. David Poland says:

    PS… In case it wasn’t clear enough, testicle ref was the con trier at Cannes and the Peters thing was a silly swing in the dark… I have not read any if the acquired alleged proposal.

  4. anghus says:

    I read the proposal. It was pretty graphic. It read like something you’d see in an interview with Larry Flynt of Bob Guccione. I could almost hear some lower east side guy in a sweatsuit chomping on a cigar going “Dis is the guy that F-ed up everyone in Hollywood”.
    You’re absolutely right. The book deal isn’t news. The implications that he was going to name names about scandals and at the same time mentioning that everyone working in Hollywood somehow owes him a debt was strange. It read like:
    “Jon Peters is going to dish on EVERYONE. Did i mention Jon Peters knows EVERYONE?”
    You read it and the first thing you think is “wow, Jon Peters is writing a tell all book.”
    Then you think for a few hours and suddenly you realize, 99% of the filmgoing public has no idea who Jon Peters is. To mainstream America you could say “The guy who produced Batman” or “He used to date Barbara Streisand”.
    The proposal mentions the Sony deal, but they didn’t mention driving it into the ground.

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