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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
BULLSHIT. 40 percent of his votes came from Arkansas. 40 FUCKING PERCENT. It’s American Idol. It’s not ARKANSAS IDOL.
This kid should have immediately pulled a Ving Rhames, removed himself from the situation, and saved himself the grief. Now he has a target on his back, and a lot of people are going to take shots. I would not put it past EW to do another cover story about Kris, and go on about how this is a Ruben/Clay situation all over again. Just because the South has a vote… DOESN’T MEAN WE SHOULD USE IT!
Lambert is going to be huge, and now Kris has to deal with the constant comparisons the rest of his career. The sooner Kris returns to obscurity in Conway, Arkansas. The better his life will be.
Once again the South fucks over the country. I would apologize profusely, but these motherfuckers do not know any better. This is why all their gay children usually have to leave this part of the country.
You can vote as many times as you can (not want, many people have trouble even getting one call in). It’s hardly fair. Lambert will emerge from this fine. Kris is a nice kid, but I don’t see him having much of a career. Most past ‘winners’ aren’t exactly lighting up the charts, though even marginal success is better than none.
Lambert will be a great Birdie when they do the revival of Bye Bye Birdie.
Kris isn’t a house burner. But he is so much more likable.
I don’t know… didn’t think you’d go in for the lattice shoulder pads, IO.
TOTAL BULLSHIT.
LAMBERT OWNED and DESERVED THAT SHIT.
Dude brought KISS for his finale night. KISS. And QUEEN. QUEEN AND KISS ARE AWESOME.
Kris is a NICE GUY and he needs to DUMB THAT WIFE ASAP, but the FAUX-HUMBLE ACT is a little tiresome, the dude is too short, and Adam is AWWWWWWESOME. Kiss, Queen, Katy Perry, and Jamie Foxx all concur.
Don’t care what they do post-show, Lambert straight up COMMANDED and brought the METAL and the GAY all in one feel swoop, not an easy task… KATY PERRY gave the CLOAK SHOUT-OUT…
Kris is a sawed-up John Stamos wannabe and a SUPER nice guy with an obviously awesome family, so as D-Cook said, there was no WRONG ANSWER, but Adam WAS this season… Dude KILLED IT and that SAM COOKE song last night was infinitely winnable.
Other thoughts:
Fergie, Kara, Megan JOY, and Alexis ALL BROUGHT THE BONERS.
LAMBERT WAS FUCKING ROBBED. ROBBED. By a NICE GUY from the DEEP SOUTH. IO is 100% right… the fucking SOUTH kills this show every goddamn time.
OH, and BIKINI GIRL FTW YEP YEP, LOVING those new GIANT FUCKING CANS, also KARA RULES for FLASHING, FERGIE BROUGHT THE SEXY SHOES and GIANT LEGS and MEGAN JOY brought THE SLEEVE.
AND THERE WAS MUCH BONER.
Also: LAMBERT WAS FUCKING ROBBED. ROBBED.
Kris BROUGHT JASON MRAZ and ADAM BROUGHT GENE FUCKING SIMMONS.
DEFEND THAT.
Lex: Not a defense, but Kris brought Keith Urban. Mraz performed with the entire top 13.
Can’t say I’m shocked by the result. When it gets down to two, it’s always about whose fans are the most OCD about voting. But Lambert’s already gotten a solo EW cover and, as Lex said, the support of a lot of industry hotshots. He’ll do as well as he would’ve done as the winner.
Kara’s flashing almost redeemed that dog of song she wrote for the head-to-head. Neither Adam nor Kris could do much with it, though Kris sounded much better on it tonight than last night. Maybe he had the key lowered in the interim?
Kudos to Steve Martin for confusing the hell out of the crowd with his song.
One more thing about this for now:
Do you guys GET THIS AT ALL why like whole STATES or at least CITIES turn out to ROOT FOR THE HOMETOWN FAVE? Do you relate to this AT ALL??????
I seriously do not; Every year on AI there’s at least two contestants from some Podunk town, and the WHOLE FUCKING CITY turns out en masse to root for the local boy done good. Maybe it’s just me, but if I was from some hilljack Arkansas town, I sure as shit wouldn’t be going to the KRIS ALLEN DAY PARADE, I’d be ANNOYED AS A MOTHERFUCKER that some dude from my town had made it big in THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD.
On the flip side, if I were Kris or Danny Gokey or Taylor Hicks, you couldn’t PAY ME ENOUGH to ever set foot in some backwoods town again once I had attained LA FAME and could score LA PUSSY.
HOMETOWN PRIDE is bullshit, which is why KAT McPhee remains the greatest AIer EVER, because she was from SHERMAN OAKS (YEP YEP VALLEY REPRESENT) and no one in this AWESOME CITY gave the slightest fuck about her stupid homecoming. AS IT SHOULD BE.
I don’t get hometown pride; I also don’t get ROOTING FOR THE HOMETEAM or IDENTIFYING WITH YOUR HOME TOWN in ANY WAY. So, you’re from CONWAY AK. So is KRIS ALLEN. How does that EMPOWER YOU in ANY WAY? You’re still running the local gas station, and meanwhile some fuck-stick you grew up with is in L.A. chilling at premieres and living in a mansion. SHOULDN’T YOU BE JEALOUS AS FUCK? Why do you have some HOMETOWN AFFINITY for the dude?
Why does your local sports team give you a sense of pride and identification? All that stuff is retarded.
He was talking about LeBron James. Duh.
Lex– agreed 100%. Danny Gokey and I share the same backwoods, Milwaukee WI, and I was fucking embarassed last week for the people I saw standing in line to see him perform.
Hooray for the South! We win again! I got a pickup truck full of shotguns and we’re going to fire them all off tonight and get drunk on moonshine!
I don’t watch American Idol, I just want to be included.
Woah, LeBron didn’t win. That’s what I get for turning it off at halftime.
So DP was talking about Dwight Howard.
Was there something on TV last night?
for the first time, I agree with LexG (regarding the Adam Lambert comment)…. the results are bullshit. I’m convinced that American Idiot is fixed.
I’ll admit I do not follow music at all (I think the last time I picked up something from a new artist it was Macy Gray or the Black Eyed Peas). But do any of the idols stay relevent? I know Clarkson had some hits and Underwood is big in the country scene but don’t most of these kids fade away after a few months anyway? Have any of you actually purchased music from an idol alum?
Hcat: aren’t you like 23? How can you not follow music at that age? That aside, the idols do not fade away. McPhee is making a movie, Daughtry is Huge, and Carrie Underwood is huge in country. There are even some contestants that write songs now. So they do not fade they away. They are starting to make their own wing of pop culture.
David: I have been down since Sisters of Mercy. You are also talking out of your fucking ass with the Broadway shit. If you have watched this show from day one. You will know how Simon slams people with the BROADWAY TAG early on to guarantee, that they will leave early. Simon never lowered that on Adam. He also did not stand up for Kris. When you have the guy who makes homophobic slurs and slams Broadway not stand up for the winner. Well David, you are just whistling dixie out of your bunghole.
Kris is not marketable. He’s essentially Taylor Hicks MRAZ STYLE! Do you really think that will sell compared to awesome lyrics and BOMBBAST? Fuck no. Adam was robbed, Arkansas fucked over the country, and Kris will have to deal with it.
I could picture Kris in Bye Bye Birdie before Adam.
For the record, IO, it’s possible to follow music and not give a flying fuck what happens on American Idol. “There are even some contestants that write songs now” pretty much sums it up.
Also, I never would have pegged Lex as an AI watcher. All starting to make sense now, if you think the laddie doth project too much…
i didn’t feel very connected to the show this season. There seemed to be a distinct lack of personality in the contestants.
They could do it together, Capt. Kris as Albert, Adam as Birdie, the blonde twisty one as Kim, the short haired skinny blonde as Rosie… and Simon Cowell in the Paul Lynde role.
Seriously though, watching those horrible group numbers, I wondered to myself how long it would be before there would be a musical revival on Broadway cast exclusively of former Idol contestants.
I agree with Anghus… best season for voices on average… worst season for anyone with real star potential. Only Alison, really… and only because she is so good so young and will develop stage presence if she keeps at it.
IO – I’m 36, and even when I was 23 I was more interested in Dylan, Zevon and Elton than in the music of the age.
But do 23 year olds listen to Idol singers? Most of these contestests seem to have a whiff of Disney to them and seem to play to the tween crowd.
I can’t deny that AI is a television phenom but I don’t see it translating into record sales or hit singles. And going from being on stage to writing songs is the very definition of fading away.
Hcat, seriously. What IO said about the Idol alum (and I can’t believe I just said that … that may be a first). Carrie Underwood is big in the country scene, Kelly Clarkson has done quite well for herself, too, and they just presented David Cross with something a few weeks ago for selling a ton of records as well. David Cross, Chris Daughtry and Adam are by far my fave Idol alums (though I’ll always have a soft soft for Clay Aiken singing “Solitaire”), but as good as Cross and Daughtry are, Adam is just in a class by himself.
How many artists could get up there with freaking Queen and make people think, “Holy shit, he could totally have the first part of his career being Queen’s new front man!” He has the same stagey presence Freddie Mercury had, with an even greater vocal range. And … classy of him to hold that last note with Kris, rather than upstaging him like he could have. But did you catch the look on Brian May’s face a couple times when Adam was singing? Man. Adam with KISS was freaking awesome (they should totally work that into the tour) but I’d rather Adam work with Queen for a while than do solo work or anything else. Those guys are artists, and they know exactly what to do with vocals like he has.
But, much as I love me some Adam, I was kind of rooting for Kris last night. Adam didn’t need the win, the industry is salivating over itself waiting to get its paws on him and he will be HUGE. Plus, he didn’t have to sing that godawful song again last night. Kris is good in his own, kind of John Mayer way, and he’s very likable and appealing. I don’t think his humble thing is an act, he strikes me as very genuine.
Awesome finale. I love Idol.
Kim, I acknowledged Underwood’s success in an earlier post and it’s just that she and Clarkson are the only ones I have heard of routinely since their wins (other than Aiken of course who seems to have embraced his role of America’s punchline in a very couragous way).
Now if Cross and Daughtry are selling albums or downloads or whatever the whippersnappers are doing nowadays I stand corrected.
Hcat: the idol winners are all over the place. It’s pretty bloody crazy.
Kim: Kris winning only guaranteed the rest of the country will enjoy his failing. I cannot wait to see Adam wipe him off of the map. It will be lots of fun. So Kris won, and made a lot of enemies. He should have pulled a Rhames.
David: I like the girl, but she’s Adam with a skirt.
Uh… Adam is Adam with a skirt.
I have heard actual emotion in her singing.
Adam is going to be the biggest, most surprising Idol bust since Fantasia and Ruben.
David: I want your blog when Adam is the biggest success. Seriously, Adam being robbed will only lead to him getting paid like Clay. Who did win at the end of the day.
I hate using Wikipedia as a source but they should be able to get sales numbers correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-selling_American_Idol_alumni
So looking at the trends there, I was wrong about them fading away in a few months but it seems they have a definate shelf life.
I’m just pissed he spells his name that way.
Anybody who expects integrity from a corporate product like AMERICAN IDOL…
Good lord, people are worked up. At 33, am I really too old to be even remotely connected to this?
Kim Voynar wrote: How many artists could get up there with freaking Queen and make people think, “Holy shit, he could totally have the first part of his career being Queen’s new front man!””
First concert I ever saw was Queen, though I’ll confess mainly wanting to see Billy Squier who opened for them. I did like Queen and thought they had a few good songs before hand but I didn’t realize just how many songs I knew. Freddie Mercury was amazing. Just all over the place. So theatrical and really energized the crowd. I’m trying to think of a better frontman in rock. Maybe David Lee Roth, only when I saw VH when he was with them he was pretty wasted.
I kinda tuned into Idol sporadically and always thought Adam was head and shoulders above everybody else. Kris I did think was fairly memorable at times too. Not being that engrossed in the show, I didn’t learn until yesterday that Adam had I guess a significant musical theater background. Not that it surprised me but I think watching the Queen number when they were towards the end of the song and trading leads back and forth I really noticed how Adam would rear his shoulders back on cue and belt it out as if being prompted by his instructor sitting behind the piano during rehearsal.
But I was right there with you thinking, “you know what, he could pull it off.” I never saw Paul Rodgers w/Queen. Dude’s gotta a great and distinctive voice. I’d hate to see him unceremoniously dumped like one of the leads of Van Halen but Adam fronting Queen would be something I’d pay to see. Brian May looked good. They didn’t show any other members of the band that I could see. Don’t know if Adam would look awkward playing in front of a buncha geezers but if there’s anyone who could pull it off…
David Poland took a bong hit and wrote: Adam is going to be the biggest, most surprising Idol bust since Fantasia and Ruben.”
Yeah, I’ll take even money on that. If nothing else, Adam moves to Vegas and makes $1 Million a month for the next 40 years. He’s never going to be w/out work. He prolly won’t have Clarkson or Underwood sales but he’ll do Broadway, London, Vegas and a whole bunch of touring projects on his own.
Losing Idol may be a huge blessing for the guy. Now he won’t be stigmatized w/that label and be forced to stay in that dog & tweenie show box for the next few years and grow a real career like Jennifer Hudson. Still, it may teach him not to lay up liking re-singing a song from early in the comp or accommodating someone if it really doesn’t work, like he was forced to do in sing that 4th judge’s song. Hopefully w/out becoming too obsessive or egotistical, Idol could be to Adam what Seoul was to Roy Jones, Jr.
re: above post.
Forgot to ask, did they ever figure out what killed Danny Gans? Wynn’s old skool, right? How soon before Lambert’s name appears above the Encore? Early Sept when Idols Live tour is over and the crowds start filtering in for the start of the NFL season???
I’m not an Idol fan, but I do know that neither Aiken or Daughtry won. So, I’m not sure where you can rank them in the “success” ratio of winners.
Also, I believe the top ten or eight of each season is under contract to Simon Cowell for an extensive period of time. So, not winning doesn’t necessarily “free them up” to do other things
Pretty sure that was Queen’s Roger Taylor on drums, too. I guess John Deacon hasn’t been playing with the band for several years now.
Adam’s got the voice to front Queen, but I don’t think it could ever feel like anything other than a novelty act or, despite the presence of half the original lineup, a tribute band. I love Queen, and Brian May’s one of my all-time favorites, but an Adam-fronted Queen tour gives me that same unsanitary knock-off vibe as INXS fronted by the Rock Star winner. Huge difference in singing talent and stage presence between those two, I know, but still…
And speaking of Rock Star, you know whose post-reality-TV-singing-contest career depresses me the most? Rock Star season 2 runner-up Dilana. Oh, the pipes on that chick…
Mother, Mother:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIKTxeVXHOE&feature=related
Time After Time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWOputrVxoM
And in searching for her clips, the newest stuff I turn up is a nightclub performance in Hermosa Beach. sigh…
Hey now, Dilana also appeared briefly on BIG BROTHER 8 in an awesome montage of contestant Evel Dick’s buddies from the Hollywood club scene. That was fucking awesome.
I will DEFINITELY be buying the Megan Joy SOLO album in all senses of the word. SO. HOT.
Can’t wait for Kris’ album SEARCHIN’ with cover art of him standing against a blue backdrop in medium shot, guitar strap visible and that faux-humble aw-shucks look on his face.
If he was awesome, he’d call his album D.T.B. And any Tom Leykis fans out there, you KNOW what that stands for. And Kris needs to do it ASAP so he can BASK in L.A.-area VAGINA.
“I’m not an Idol fan, but I do know that neither Aiken or Daughtry won. So, I’m not sure where you can rank them in the “success” ratio of winners.”
That’s kind of the point. Being the Idol “winner” doesn’t guarantee success, the top 2 or 3 from each season all have a pretty good shot, depending on what they do with it. Aiken lost to Ruben and did way more album sales, Daughtry lost to Taylor Hicks, same thing. And David, no idea where your Adam-hating is coming from, but if you seriously think he’s going to be a bust, I have to agree that you were maybe under the influence of something when you wrote that. Or you’re just enjoying being deliberately contrarian.
A lot of Idol contenders — Carrie Underwood included — had to grow into success after they won. Adam was ready before the show even started, he just needed the world to take notice of him to get his career underway.
“Seriously though, watching those horrible group numbers, I wondered to myself how long it would be before there would be a musical revival on Broadway cast exclusively of former Idol contestants.”
Considering some of the stories you hear about the contracts AI puts them under, they’d probably feel most at home doing a revival of “Avenue Q”.
“Have any of you actually purchased music from an idol alum?”
I’ve bought both Fantasia Burrino albums and Jennifer Hudson’s plus all of Clarkson’s except the first (the last two have been dogs). I’ve bought a couple of Oz Idol ones, too. Wes Carr – d/l his album, it’s quite good as those things go.
Burrino, btw, appeared on Broadway so she’s done pretty well for herself and Hudson goes without saying. Lambert may be able to crack the international market from what I’ve seen and read of him, when this Kris guy will surely not unless he gets given a “Bleeding Love” of some kind. The last few winners haven’t even begun to get international exposure.
Melinda Doolittle put out a good record this year. Check it out.
BLAKE LEWIS A.D.D. AUDIO DAY DREAM in the house!
(Biggest DOUCHE EVER on A.I., with his OH-SO-NOVEL BeatBoxing Skillz.)
Kris Douchelen is on LENO right now doing that faux-humble, fake-laugh, aw-shucks bullshit.
If this guy was awesome, he’d DUMP THE WIFE RIGHT NOW. DO IT.
DOOOOOO IT!
I have a Kelly Clarkson album, and would probably blind-buy the Melinda Doolittle CD.
Adam may do better than the average alum simply because he seems to have a sense of himself and what kind of artist he wants to be (sorry for sounding like Kara).
Most of the alums are packaged so safely, they can’t stand out from the current pop trends. Daughtry only stands out in relation to other Idol-related stuff; it was always clear that he’d make albums squarely in the KROQ tradition. Carrie wisely stuck to her pop-country thang and was embraced by the Nashville machine, reaping big benefits.
The main problem with most Idol alums is they have great voices but poor taste. And if they do have good taste in influences, their original material doesn’t measure up (see Taylor Hicks).
Oh, and David Cross was never on Idol. He was over the age limit. It’s David COOK. How soon they forget. 🙂
David Cross would win Idol for sure if there was no age limit. 😉
I had to review that Daughtry album for a magazine and it was terrible.
“Oh, and David Cross was never on Idol. He was over the age limit. It’s David COOK. How soon they forget. 🙂 ”
Thanks, Yancy. That’s what I get for posting in a hurry. Now I’ll have to punish myself by listening to some Britney or going to see Terminator Salvation. Oy.
Kim: If you’re looking for punishment, don’t put on Britney’s “Toxic.” That’s a great record. 🙂
Britney’s EVERYTIME is a great depressing song for drunken 2ams, even better because the video has Stephen Dorff owning it up.
All this despite the fact that its central melody is too close to some other famous Richard Marxish song I can never remember, and that EVERY TIME should be two words as Brit uses it in the song and title.
(See also, those stupid fucking ROLLOVER for details banners, where ROLL OVER should be two.)
Did anyone see this douchetastic interview that Billy Bush did with Kris? He was trying to start shit, but Kris wouldn’t take the bait.
http://www.accesshollywood.com/american-idol/kris-allen-talks-idol-win-may-21-2009_videotab_1108983