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A Tale Of Two Clip Packages, Pt 1

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12 Responses to “A Tale Of Two Clip Packages, Pt 1”

  1. IOIOIOI says:

    I know some mooks on this board will disagree with this analogy, but this is why they are a bunch of mooks. If they were not ready for Speed Racer, what exactly makes you think they are ready for Avatar? Even if it’s COOL looking. Effects and now 3-D do not always bring in the people. So, yeah, FTW if people give a shit about that story. A story that seems as hokey as a trite shit.

  2. Eric says:

    I have to believe that Cameron would not have made this movie if he wasn’t completely satisfied with the script. He was gone for ten years… why wouldn’t he wait one more if he wasn’t quite ready to go?

  3. David Poland says:

    Speed Racer is a different planet, IO. That was a piece for kids, really… and for adults who love those childhood kinds of films. This is a drama with heavy action. And visually, it is not “familiar images writ super large,” it’s a very different planet.
    And Eric… what makes you think he wasn’t happy with the script?

  4. Eric says:

    Just reacting to your post– from the way you describe it, the Avatar footage could suggest a movie with a lot of compelling images but that might not be greater than the sum of its parts (like What Dreams May Come, which you mentioned and is a perfect example of such a movie).
    If it wasn’t clear in what I wrote above, I have quite a bit of faith that Cameron can deliver on a movie like this.

  5. IOIOIOI says:

    David, did you forget Speed Racer had nothing to do with the cartoon, and created visuals the likes of which we have seldom if ever seen? It seems that you did. Sure it’s another planet, but someone else showed me photoreal planets for the last 10 years. So, really, it may look amazing, but the synopsis of the story going around sucks. It’s just comes across as hokey.

  6. jeffmcm says:

    There’s something weird about IOI choosing to not pre-love a geek movie. I seem to recall he doesn’t like Titanic, is that the issue?

  7. Yes, Avatar is hokey, but movies based on toys and sequels to geek movies from ten years ago and more aren’t. Yes. That’s right.
    Apparently.

  8. IOIOIOI says:

    Kiki: Geeks rule the world. The fact that you and monkeybreathe up there do not get this. Well, really, that’s on you chicken nugget. I could give a fuck.
    If you are bringing up toys. It really demonstrates how much of a daffy you are. Really, toys? Real clever there Kiki. Go watch some MMA, and BUTCH THE FUCK UP!

  9. CaptainZahn says:

    The thinly veiled homophobic remarks are not cute, IOI.

  10. jeffmcm says:

    That wasn’t thinly veiled.

  11. Wrecktum says:

    I love it when Fievel comes back from Comin-Con, because he puffs up like a peacock and brays that the Geeks Shall Inherit the Earth. He’s been rubbing elbows with shut-ins and ubernerds for four days, and he’s getting all cocky.
    I’m sure when his comic books and action figures were torn up by school bullies (the type-A punks who actually Rule the World) he cried and moaned that someday he’d get his revenge. He’d grow some kinda superpower and zap those bullies (now the CEOs, lawyers and politicians that run society) into oblivion and he’d remain. Triumpant. Vindicated. Alive.
    Comic-Con does that to the nerds. It empowers them. Briefly. But then they go back to their jobs as insurance adjusters and data entry assistants, eagerly checking the mail for their commemorative issue of Deadpool #238 to arrive. Cursing the boss and ogling the secretary three cubes over. Waiting for the day they’ll rule the earth. The day that never comes.

  12. IO throwing out homophobic (jeff is right, not thinly veiled at all) comments is not surprising since he has done them before and yet he’s allowed to just go on giving his hate speeches. But if babies don’t get any negative conditioning they never learn.

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