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Super Movie Friends 4 – AntiChrist

This sneak peek is light on spoilers, though the central themes of nature and psychology are addressed.

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With an unreviewable weekend upon us, we decided that this week’s SMF would be about a movie that is heading to Toronto, will not be released in the US until December, but which is sure to be talked about a lot, as it has been since Cannes. Lars Von Trier’s AntiChrist.
THERE WILL BE SPOILERS… the movie is discussed from open to close.
This week’s show. with guests Kim Morgan and Larry Gross, is here. And yes, Virginia, there is an mp3 on the page if you want it.
A sneak peek YouTube clip will soon be available as well.

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26 Responses to “Super Movie Friends 4 – AntiChrist”

  1. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    An absolute must-see on a giant screen for those a little jaded with cinema at the moment.
    Don’t settle for a screener with the giant Zentropa through the middle of the pic, it won’t work for you. The most exhilarating, hypnotic confounding and deeply problematic work this year. People who think it’s one big prank, maybe don’t realize just how complex and mixed-up Von Trier actually is. The man has issues. This is not a joke.
    The opening shower scene with slow-mo testicle to labia bounce really is a thing to behold.

  2. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    DP I really like these keep them coming. Can we please have one with Drew? Is that even possible. I think some friction would be good for the mix.
    Please take this from one dad to another who knows how tough it is to keep off those pregnancy pounds. This is a bad angle for you. You are quite the gentleman to give Kim the best seat in the frame, though I suspect she’s attractive from any angle.

  3. David Poland says:

    Yes, JBD… terrible angle… bad choice of shirt… wish I could blame baby daddy weight gain, but I can’t… a mistake I won’t repeat.
    I look forward to inviting Drew, though I don’t know that we will have as much friction – if he does it – as you might like. We disagree very intensely on very specific things, but I find that our tastes can be quite similar.

  4. martin says:

    Dave and Drew went at it on G4 one time, I think it was for Watchmen. Not really all that much friction, if anything Drew came across as passive aggressive I suppose in his disagree with Dave’s dislike of the film, but overall not anything close to a real argument. You’d need to get thoroughly opposing viewpoints like from a Friedman, Finke, or maybe Wells (though his taste is not often far from David’s).
    Anyway I’m starting to watch this one, surprised to see that everyone is a fan of Antichrist. Would have been more exciting if say Michael Medved was a dissenting opinion.

  5. David Poland says:

    We looked for a hater of the film… couldn’t find one in LA…

  6. martin says:

    Not surprising that there are lots of Anti-christ fans in LA.

  7. martin says:

    Also, Kim’s left shoulder is hot.

  8. mutinyco says:

    Are you using the Avatar font on the bottom?…

  9. martin says:

    Not to get off topic, but Mutiny don’t you think this font is much better than the generic one they used in the trailer? It’s kind of like originally they were promoting with the “tech” appeal, and with the trailer they’re going for a more romantic font. Tech one is better IMO, and more Cameron-y:
    http://www.megaplextheatres.com/showtimes/posterImages/10001781.jpg

  10. martin says:

    And here’s the lamer one they’re currently using:
    http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/avatar_poster.jpg

  11. mutinyco says:

    Is the first one legit? Or is that one of the billions of fan-made one-sheets? I don’t recall seeing that one.

  12. martin says:

    sorry to go OT, last post on this. MC yeah I think it’s legit, here’s another one:
    http://tinyurl.com/m387bo

  13. mutinyco says:

    I think Avatar should have a hand-drawn opening title sequence like in Almost Famous.

  14. David Poland says:

    What is with the OCD about fonts?

  15. LYT says:

    Whew. Thank you, David. I was afraid of, well, you know…
    And yeah, you and Larry should have switched spots for this framing.
    I don’t mind this font – reminds me of collegiate sports logos, which is totally irrelevant but kind of amusingly so.

  16. martin says:

    Sorry will take it to BYOB.
    I finally watched the rest of it, good SMF but a little drier than last time, and still hasn’t convinced me to see Antichrist. I’m a morlock, I’d have preferred a SMF on H2/FD. That being said, I imagine Lex will be fully satisfied.

  17. jackfly11 says:

    Damn, this is pretty spoiler-heavy. It is a round table I suppose, but still…a movie that won’t be in theatres until Dec?
    I’m planning to catch this at TIFF in 2 weeks and was just looking for some opinion. If I knew you were going to be getting into spoiler territory, I probably would’ve waited.

  18. David Poland says:

    Sorry, jackfly… should have posted a notice… just did… I do think it’s a 3 or 4 viewing movie… will be interested in how it plays for you.

  19. jackfly11 says:

    No worries. Can’t wait to see it now and be part of the discussion…

  20. I don’t have time to watch this yet, but Antichrist is a good MOVIE. As a cinema-going experience it sure as hell beats something like The Young Victoria or Taking Woodstock which I’ve seen these past two days.

  21. LexG says:

    Despite the lack of LOU FROM CADDYSHACK, this actually might be my favorite SMF yet; Doubly strange since it’s about a movie I haven’t seen and which isn’t the current week’s big hype movie.
    But really enjoyed the discussion of how generally dispassionate critics process and often reject in-your-face movies that make them feel something; With so many of the “proper” critics coming from that removed hard-journalism perspective, this has always been a pet frustration of mine too — that they can be so confounded and repulsed when a movie forces them to off of their emotionless playbook.
    On a lighter note, how awesome is it that the addition of a ballcap turns LARRY GROSS into BOB “SUPER DAVE” EINSTEIN? Even the voice is a ringer. (Gross rules.)
    Poland continues to be wrong about HOSTEL II, but I don’t know how anyone could find HOSTEL I “boring.” That opening act of awesome sexist fratboy cluelessness was some of the funniest shit ever.
    I know there’s an expectation from some that I’d comment on Kim Morgan in the predictable way, but again, she’s just a really cool personality and good, passionate writer and critic. She’s also friends of friends apparently, and believe it or not, in my everyday I don’t go around making lecherous comments about “real” people…
    All that said… her giant, expressive hands are kind of awesome.

  22. jeffmcm says:

    Lex, you’re back? Were you ever really away?

  23. leahnz says:

    ‘anti-christ’ is lame verging on unintentionally amusing. maybe i’d see it again if somebody paid ME, just to mock the ridiculously obvious symbolism, lack of any fear-factor, and LvT’s rather cliche chick issues

  24. Bob Violence says:

    All of von Trier’s movies are comedies, why would Antichrist be an exception

  25. Drew McW says:

    Both of those are fan-made posters, Martin. Fox released no official promotional materials until the last few weeks.

  26. martin says:

    Interesting that the fan made posters in are some ways better than the “real” ones. Usually I hate fan posters, but in this case they have some stronger elements than the kind of blandish pro ones.

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