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Problematic… Or Not?

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12 Responses to “Problematic… Or Not?”

  1. I think it’s lame but it’s says it’s an “advertorial” right on the front page so I guess it’s not “problematic.” In my mind the problem arises if a review is given to the film because if it’s a positive review, the purchased ad space from the studio makes me suspect.

  2. yeah… I echo the 1st person’s comment. as long as it screams “ADVERTORIAL” then I ain’t got a problem with it. Anyway, a lot of websitse would be dead if it wasn’t for paid advertising.

  3. jeffmcm says:

    Problematic only in the sense that they’re making the site irrelevant by giving it over to pointless content.

  4. Aris P says:

    The bad layout and over-clutter of this web page is what should be problematic to them.

  5. Admittedly I don’t know much about advertising, but why would an advertiser or studio add a “Saw” movie ad to a site like CHUD? Like any regular reader of CHUD is unaware that a new “Saw” movie is coming. If they wanna waste money, it’s their all but makes no sense to me.

  6. doug r says:

    It’s like a free newspaper giving over its front page to a paid advertisment. Just screams “WHORE!”, is all.

  7. Anyone else getting a kick out of how a certain loudmouth, know-it-all, bullying, soap box preacher on the ethics and morals of film writers at CHUD was railing against SlashFilm and other sites doing these “advertorials” only to have one land on his doorstep? Heh heh heh.

  8. What’s sad is that the writer didn’t even take the time to write an actual retrospective of the long running series. The discussion about the series that we partook in last week on this blog had more depth and insight than that ‘essay’. The thing on the front page could have been written by reading the back of each DVD box and spending 30 seconds on Box Office Mojo.

  9. leahnz says:

    from what little i can see the writer of the ‘retrospective’ certainly is problematic, starting off too informally by using the interjection “Well”, as if in mid conversation or thinking out loud, and then the grammar just goes downhill from there with “this Friday sees the release of Saw…” (friday can’t see, it’s a day not a sighted being, nor should it be the subject of the sentence, that would be ‘Saw’), followed by the use of the extraneous preposition “and” to start the second paragraph. who writes this stuff, grade school kids? do people actually get paid to write so poorly?

  10. christian says:

    Because SAW fans care about grammar.

  11. leahnz says:

    i guess not! (a little copy editing goes a long way)

  12. Drew McW says:

    I do think it’s problematic. Devin took heat for this yesterday on Twitter, but it wasn’t his call, and it’s not his article, so I think the anger was misplaced. I think Nick Nunziata should know better at this point in CHUD’s lifecycle. I find it distasteful at the very least to publish an “article” that was paid for specifically by a studio, and I think even when it is clearly labeled, it is a line that I would never want to cross.
    I have heard all the defenses of the practice, but none of them convince me. I think this is part of that slippery slope we speak of sometimes, and it just erodes further any confidence readers have that your opinion is entirely yours, free of financial duress.

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