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Responding To Ted Hope's Schindler List For Indie Film, Pt 1 of 2

Ted Hope is an important producer and has become even more important to the community as he has become a strong and constant voice in the conversation about the future of the industry.
A few days ago, he published “38 More Ways The Film Industry Is Failing Today
Did I mention… I often disagree with Ted’s perspective on things?
He’s a very smart guy, but I think he gets tangled up in his good intentions with some ideas and is a bit pie in the sky on others. On some things – maybe more than this piece will suggest – we are in agreement.
Anyway… I have responded to his ideas, by number. This is the first 19 items…
Here is a pop-up of Ted’s entry, in case you want to have his list open next to mine.
1. It is a sad notion that movies are not enough to get people to pay to go see movies

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2 Responses to “Responding To Ted Hope's Schindler List For Indie Film, Pt 1 of 2”

  1. guselephant says:

    Thanks for doing this, David. Looking forward to part two.
    I am a fan of Ted’s and a very regular reader of his stuff, as well as his sponsored guests at truly free film… but I would say there’s not a day that goes by that I don’t wonder if he considers, explicitly, his overall goals. So much of what he says is directly contradictory and frequently at odds with even the most basic economic principles I often wonder if he ever thinks of the context of his comments.
    Your points about other forms of entertainment are very well taken – there is no reason to think that film is for reason the only form of entertainment suffering under economic hardship. There is no reason – none that is supported by the numbers – to think that indie film will cease to exist. Its overblown form of the previous 10-15 years is dying and well it should. Generating projects that lose enormous amounts of money is bad for basically everyone. But the reality of financing is that it has always been a terrible business because the supply far outweighs the demand, and creators do not (nor should they if they expect it to be any good) consider market conditions for the large majority of what is made. This means that indie, in the current incarnation, is only a job if your time has no value.
    I could go on here forever but thanks.

  2. Rob says:

    Everyone working across all art forms seems to be obsessed with the idea that you need to “create community” to build an audience, but no one can ever define it more specifically than that.
    “Community” is definitely a red-flag word; when someone uses it, prepare yourself for a paragraph or two of obfuscation.

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