It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
I vote for Luke Perry!
Why not go all out and get Robert Blake?
Lex Motherfucking G for HANGOVER 2.
I’m definitely not in a hurry to see Mel Gibson. In fact, I think I’d be put off by seeing him in the next movie. There was a time I guess about a decade ago that I was pretty sick of seeing Robert Downey Jr. Not that he shouldn’t have been allowed to work, like some people were over Mike Tyson, but it just seemed so ridiculous, like he was getting offers because of his troubles not despite them.
While I’m definitely over Tyson, though do think some of his issues are based on legit mental issues not just ego run amuck, it didn’t upset or offend me that they put him the first one. First of all, the guy served his time. Next, not that I was purposefully holding a grudge, but sufficient time had passed. It’s not like I could set a time that Gibson needs to be banished to then be acceptable in seeing in films but the guy has some real hatred and prejudices and heart issues that aren’t gonna be “fixed” in some 8 week counseling course. It’s not like I’m saying I could never forgive the guy, I just have no desire to see him.
Someone like Tiger Woods, who though I don’t feel sorry for, do think he’s had too much public scorn heaped upon him, I can at least see how the gen pub felt duped or betrayed by him, however misguided or unreasonable the level of faith some people carried for him. He’s someone I wonder how much do you want to do before you people can let it go? I think it may’ve been easier if he’d committed an actual crime he could’ve gone away for. Like Michael Vick. People protested his return but plenty others were able to say “he did his time, let’s move on.” I realize most diehard football fans aren’t going to be card-carrying PETA members but people can recognize the seriousness of his actions and decide if penance or justice had been adequately served.
And not to be confused with any singular action being so gross as the aforementioned, Tom Cruise comes to mind. He didn’t do anything particularly “wrong” per se, I, like many others, am just over him. It may be unfair but he’s not going to be able to win back some hearts by donating a buttload of money to a good cause or staring in a great film, he may just need to go away for a while until the mere sight of him doesn’t cause people to be instantly repulsed. I think that’s my feelings towards Mel being hired. My initial reaction to his casting was ‘Uck! Seriously? WHY?!’ I think I’d almost be more upset w/the production team responsible for putting him in there than actually he himself.
I’m not sure the word but I’d agree that deliberately seeking out a Tyson role just cuz it worked the first time seems a bit forced or contrived. Tyson’s worked in part because he was playing himself and also since he’s a well known resident of Las Vegas. Maybe they go with Wayne Newton or Alice Cooper. They could try an acting against type role, ala Bob Barker in Happy Gilmore but while it may be cool to have a celeb voice on The Simpsons or a caller for Frasier, just trying to stick someone in there, just because, could fall flat on its face. Like Dan Aykroyd playing the Bill Murray type character in Caddyshak II.
GIBSON FUCKING RULES. Stop being a PUSSY, Triple Option.
And how many Hollywood assholes have “real prejudice and hatred” toward Christians and Catholics? And in fact air those complaints out in public constantly, to the trained-dolphin applause of the liberal Hollywood community?
If Madonna said “Fuck Catholics,” or Maher said “All Christians are insane and cause wars,” it’d be shrugged off within the hour, just another day in Hollywood. But some drunken rants and asking as guy if he’s a Jew, that’s on par with MURDER, RAPE, PILLAGING AND GLOBAL DESTRUCTION.
“How could I EEEEEEEEEEEEVER WATCH MEL GIBSON again? He says DIRTY WORDS!”
FUCKING PUSSIES. Yeah, MAD MEL is the ONE GUY in Hollywood who you just CAN’T STOMACH, because he YELLS AND SWEARS AND SAYS NAUGHTY WORDS.
Unlike the standup pedophiles, drunk drivers, cokeheads, rapists, former felons and former dope slingers who direct and act in movies on the regular, and account for half the Billboard Top 100.
Triple Option is right. Tyson has served his time for what he did.
Also, Tyson played Mike Tyson in The Hangover. Would Mel Gibson be playing himself as himself in the sequel? (i.e., a ranting, abusive, alcoholic, homophobic, racist, narcissistic, egomaniacal misogynist… who needs help).
That is the sad thing about Mel. We are told he is deeply religious (i.e., dogmatic) but it appears he is not in the slightest bit spiritual. He is in search of salvation but his films are all, all, all about damnation. While he was married, he said that his wife was going to hell because she was a not Catholic? And let us quickly add, Mel is not a Catholic either. He is a Tridentine.
Gibson hasn’t been charged with anything.
Honestly, anyone who has any qualms about Mel Gibson WHATSOEVER is such a COLOSSAL FUCKING PUSSY. The only reaction ANYONE should have to his rants are that THEY ARE FUCKING HILARIOUS and the best entertainment of 2010.
I’d pay 30 bucks a ticket to see a new Gibson movie every week of the year. HE RULES. He is one of the great movie stars of our day, and as a SUPERIOR AWESOME PERSON, I couldn’t GIVE A FUCK if he’s out with an UZI *literally killing people* on his weekends. That would just make him MORE AWESOME.
GIBSON FOR PRESIDENT.
Tom Sizemore would have been a perfect choice. I can picture him being funny and scary at the same time; and in addition, he could probably just play himself as a guy who fucked up his golden ticket and plummeted like a stone to a backroom craphole doing tats 7 days a week.
Using Mike Tyson in the first film may have been a kind of stunt, but they could work off of his personality and reputation in a way that I can’t see working with Gibson. It would have taken an enormous effort on Mel’s part to do something more than a “look, it’s Mel Gibson!” cameo. It isn’t like he’s going to make light of his alcoholism or take the piss out of his own religious beliefs. So what exactly would have been great about it?
EVERY PERSON IN AMERICA talks like Mel Gibson when they get amped up. EVERYONE. His phone messages just sound like a typical Sunday night dinner at EVERY DINING ROOM TABLE IN THIS COUNTRY.
Love to know who all you fully functional, well-adjusted people are who don’t have crazy relatives, maladjusted spouses and significant others, lunatic prejudiced uncles, and alcholism somewhere in your lives. Doesn’t make it right, but the lot of you guys pulling that “Why, I NEVER…” shit at every Gibson spiel is priceless. Then multiple that times “CRAZY RUSSIAN FAMEWHORE STEALING HALF YOUR FORTUNE THAT YOU EARNED,” and let’s see how CALM AND COLLECTED you guys would be.
Cue Lesbnz to tell me some gold-digging con woman deserves 500 MILLION DOLLARS for being yelled at by Mad Mel.
Guys like The Pope (more like The Pussy) and Triple Vagina:
Who the fuck were your parents, Phil Donahue and Mother Teresa?
Like, you really CALL YOURSELVES MEN, and act offended by Mel Gibson doing some HILARIOUS rants at a loathesome scumbag of a woman?
A scumbag woman? I like her more than a holocaust denier. Gibson is a loony. The hell with him for forever and ever and ever.
Seriously, if you condone speaking to a woman like that, then you are just fucked up Lexy. Of course you are apparently the world’s greatest guy and all of that, and that gets you a pass. YAY!
He spoke to her in a way befitting a drunken man at wit’s end being swindled by a likely horrible human being.
If you’re saying a RAISED VOICE, some slurs, and some profanities warrants that opportunist getting ANY of Gibson’s fortune, I’d sign up IN A SECOND to be YELLED AT and browbeaten for millions of dollars. So would just about anyone. That chick will make more off this than you or I will in our lifetimes. So I have ZERO sympathy.
He loved her enough to show her off once they got together, so apparently she was not that horrible. Again, you got the shit beat out of you by life, big fucking deal. Most people have and that’s life. Deal with it.
GIBSON POWER.
Lex, if it makes you feel any better, I’m over Madonna and Maher, too! And not because of any anti Christian or religious views they may have but because I find their egos nauseating. You know who else you can throw on that list? Sean Penn! I like his work as an actor. Glad he walks the walk on being more humane and don’t necessarily disagree with him on that much but when he becomes so full of himself, so humorless that he’s gotta call a personal timeout to comment on Chris Rock’s joke about Jude Law at the Academy Awards, my, and I know I’m not alone here, reaction is ‘Sit down! STFU!’
I don’t mind when superstars try to publically persuade people or argue beliefs. But I can listen to people trying encouraging something, even if it’s against what I may believe in. What I can’t stand is lecturing or finger pointing or an excessive amount of opinion as fact, which often is a byproduct of an over inflated sense of self.
OTOH, some people just lose their freshness. J-Lo is someone that comes to mind. Whoopie Goldberg another. I don’t know if J-Lo did anything to cause me to be turned off by her. In fact, I’m not even sure when I kinda soured on her. Maybe about the time everybody started calling her J-Lo. I only peek in on American Idol a few times during the season but I’m ready to see her again. Though questions about her being a “qualified” choice notwithstanding. And at some point I got my fill of Whoopie. Even though she’s still been on The View, I don’t involuntarily roll my eyes any more whenever I hear her name and so I’ll be anxious to see her in For Colored Girls.
Gibson was just freckin’ vile, period! I don’t know if I have anywhere near that level of disdain. Like if he’d said some things about the Oakland Raiders or some rabid Bosox fans, a couple of groups I can’t stomach, if I’d still be able to dismiss that or be an apologist for him. There’s really no comparison. I’ll agree, some groups it seems like it’s OK to publically disparage and that people seem to get a free pass to do so and it’s not fair. But again, I’m not sure how much “choice” I have in the matter of a return to acceptance. If I have pizza or Chinese food three days in a row, I’m sure as hell not going to vote for it on the forth. Mel may’ve actually crossed over to broccoli for me. Not only do I not want to eat it but its stench and flavor can contaminate my entire meal if it’s on my plate. Mel Gibson = loss of appetite. As cute as Lindsay Lohan was for I don’t know 3-6 mos. following her 18th bday, at some point she immediately loss her appeal to me like a stripper with missing teeth. But I will say she was perfectly cast in Machete. Mel Mel just needs to go away! Just because you didn’t get food poisoning does mean you’ll be able to convince others to go back to same buffet.
IOv3, your posts, forgive me, always come with this naivete about life, like it hasn’t yet kicked you in the nuts. Like, as long as they’re making comic book movies and you’re with your apparent girlfriend, life’s all fine and dandy with you, you’re not worried about fame or money, it’ll all be okay just so you can watch your LOST DVDs and Don Draper and live a few miles from your family.
You need to GET FUCKING ANGRY. You need to BE PISSED that AS A GOD you should be FUCKING 100 WOMEN PER WEEK, that you should be LIVING IN THE HOLLYWOOD HILLS, and you should MAKE THE WORLD FUCKING PAY for holding you back. If one man in this world is Adrian Grenier or Wilmer Valeramma, you need to GET FURIOUS that THEY ARE DOING THINGS YOU ARE NOT. You need to EMBRACE ANGER and RAGE and understand that ANY WAKING SECOND WHERE YOU ARE NOT FUCKING MODELS and LIVING THE LIFE, is a LIFE ON THIS PLANET FUCKING WASTED, and that EVERYONE EVERYONE EVERYONE who EVER held you down is a PIECE OF SHIT who needs to be insulted and one-upped at EVERY TURN.
It is my GOAL IN FUCKING LIFE to make everyone else’s day JUST THAT MUCH MORE MISERABLE. The world fucking deserves it. Because I AM BETTER THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD.
Lex, you are either ignorant or just plain don’t get it. I have suffered more pain and beatdowns (verbal and physical) than you ever have. You couldn’t handle my fucking life because much like a land war in Asia: there’s not a lot of winning. There’s just a lot of enduring. I endure. I get through the day because without hope, what’s the fucking point?
Oh I forget, some dude I do not know, who got divorced or some shit, and wants to fuck 17 year olds, thinks he knows how people should act. Wow. Sorry Lex but I refuse to lose my rosey deposition even if everything does not go my way and I do not get to fuck celebrities.
“It is my GOAL IN FUCKING LIFE to make everyone else’s day JUST THAT MUCH MORE MISERABLE.”
We know, we know.
I’m seeing a connection here: alcoholism, anger management issues, misogyny, self pity, grandiosity…
Holy shit! LexG is Mel Gibson!
Did anyone else here find the first Hangover to be only mildly and occasionally amusing? I’m not allergic to (and don’t feel I’m better than) silly or raunchy movies by any means, but I really thought this one was overrated. I didn’t think Zach G. was anything special in it either, but maybe his role in Due Date will prove he’s deserving of his newfound stardom. Anyway, I have no interest in this sequel, and am not even sure how the same group of guys are going to have another hangover-fueled series of misadventures. As for the Gibson/Neeson thing, I don’t think Gibson’s appearance would have really added to the film or hurt its box office potential. But casting Neeson is somehow even more pointless. Further proof that this is not likely a film that emerged from a great script and story idea, but rather as a paint-by-numbers money grab.
Zach G. is like a less funny version of danny mcbride, who is himself prone to long stretches of simply being a moron. I can’t say I get him, but I’m not an expert.
If we assume that Zach G was the engine behind this, isn’t it possible that the decision had less to do with Mel’s behavior and more to do with then notion that it’s a pretty hacky, uninspired, shitty back-to-well sequel idea?
I vote E for not trying to recapture the Tyson magic.
They should’ve gotten Gary Busey or Randy Quaid.
I’m with you, Keil, although I thought Zach G was a highlight of The Hangover, a sloppy and only sporadically amusing comedy. It’s basically just a remake of Dude Where’s My Car? — which already had a superior remake in the form of Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle, so really, there’s no reason for The Hangover to exist except to fill a void in a bunch of frat boys’ lives. It came out around the same time as the much-reviled Land of the Lost, and honestly, Land of the Lost is funnier, more consistent, more inventive, and better-made than The Hangover. Hell, I’d even rather watch Year One again. For my money, Starsky & Hutch is the only really good Philips comedy so far. I have hopes for Due Date based mainly on Downey — although even there, it seems like Zach G is just doing his Hangover shtick again, and making it seem even more rootless and faux-“random.”
Well Zach G is obviously anti-catholic lashing out at the Hollywood’s most devout Catholic. Well except for the whole divorce thing, and the knocking up of the girlfriend, and the not marrying her after the kid was born, and the mentions of oral sex in his drunkan rants…
Wait, Sorry, lost my train of thought.
Michael Richards!
Is Jan Michael Vincent still alive?
“Land of the Lost is funnier, more consistent, more inventive, and better-made than The Hangover.”
I think one of my brain cells just committed suicide.
How is Gary Oldman in the same league as Seizmore and Kilmer, Poland?
And references to black men raping her. But phrased different.
Christian – I was sticking with things that the church is dogmatically against. I am not sure if the drunken mysogisnitic rants themselves falls into their absolute no-no category, just that he mentions an affection for Oral Sex which is not allowed.
My wife summed up the Tyson/Gibson thing well.
they’re fine with a guy who raped a girl and is known to have abused women.
they’re not fine with an anti-semite nut job. It’s Hollywood. Chris Brown can beat Rhianna unconsciouss and it’s no big deal. Someone makes a crack about the Jews running the media, they get fired from their jobs.
Hollywood seems very forgiving of wife beaters and abuse geared towards women. They seem very unforgiving of white guys who throw the word ‘nigger’ out a lot and make anti-semetic comments.
So you’ll take the rapist/woman beater over the anti-semite racist.
Zach G. is just as useless as everyone else out there. Way to make a stand buddy. Make sure the world knows that you can be down with the cast of the hangover if you rape someone, but you better not say a thing about the jews.
Anghus: At least two of Cary Grant’s ex-wives claimed he was physically abusive. Go back and check: Similar track record for John Wayne. When was the last time you heard either of these icons referred to as a wife beater?
There’s so much nonsense in this thread that it has absolutely shattered the nonsense meter. Totally freaking shatter.
Joe, which proves my point. Hollywood is indifferent to abusers. Physical brutality against women doesn’t ruin your career.
isn’t that sad.
He destroyed his career, Jack.
He’s made a modest recovery, having looked like a legend in the making (though some of his performances still stand as epic). Kilmer has a different set of issues. So does Sizemore.
There are a bunch of detailed comparisons that could be argued as to how each compares to the other.
Zach is making films he would have made fun of in stand-up. I like him as a dude anyways.
At the risk of being flogged, I tend to agree with Jesse.
I thought both “Land of the Lost” and “Year One” were as underrated as “The Hangover” was overrated.
Liam Neeson is becoming as overexposed as Olivier was in the late 70s/early 80s, dancing from paycheck to paycheck. Gibson would’ve brought a lot more to the party than dour Irishman Neeson.
LAND OF THE LOST was painfully stupid, wretchedly unfunny. Any movie that sinks to a Matt Lauer cameo has no hope.
In fact, it’s psychologically celebrated among some here.
Yeah your buddy Leah loves threatening the lot of us XD!
I think you know who I’m refering to — the one you aligned yourself with as Victim and who regularly insults you.
lol dear io, when have i “threatened the lot of you”? i used a threatening metaphor to emphasise the unacceptable spewing of hatred from a bully who thoroughly deserved a poke to his hateful mouth (or nose as it were), but i can’t wait to hear how you twist that into ‘the lot of you’ with your mental whimsy.
(and anghus is dead on. whatsherdoodle took one in the grill from mel, and he admits it not once but twice on one of those tapes – in fact “[she] fucking deserved it” – but that is conveniently overlooked in most discussions of mel’s behaviour, because like anghus pointed out, no-one cares about movie stars beating up women just so long as they aren’t racist while they do it)
Christian, you aligned yourself with someone who threaten to beat Lex up. Both of you also lack the ability to get when someone is a CHARACTER ON A BLOG! Oh I forgot, you both have to be characters, because two people could never act the way that you do without putting one on.
Seriously though Christian, you have admitted to being a dick to me for no other reason than you just want to be a dick to me. I am glad that you are a 50 year old man and this is how you get it out of your system. Go water your cats or something. I am sure they could use the attention XD!
“you have admitted to being a dick to me for no other reason than you just want to be a dick to me.”
This must have happened on the same planet where you and Lex are victims of a cruel social system. Pandora?
Christian, have I ever written anything about beating anyone up? Have I ever brought up pedophilia? No I did not but guess who has? EVERYONE ELSE WHO YOU SUPPORT! You are supporting people who are mean and vicious for no other reason than they like to treat people like shit. Unlike you and your friends, I only throw down when thrown down to, but you are too fucking limited in your interpretations to understand this, so, keep being a jerk. It suits someone so fucking ignorant of this blog that thinks Lex and I get treated so wonderfully from time to time. What a fucking goof this makes you out to be.
And I guess you take leah so seriously that you erupt in another childish display. Irony!
uh io, ftr, do you actually think i’d fly half way around the world just to ‘beat lex up’? please. isn’t it rather obvious i meant it figuratively and not literally? think about it. isn’t it interesting how you’re happy to use the ‘it’s a blog’ excuse except for when it suits you, you’re hilarious
Leah you threatened physical harm and Christian seems to think that’s alright. I disagree. It is just a blog but it’s a blog you and your buddies fuck up more times than not. Seriously, go look at Christian’s last 20 post and see if he has contributed ANYTHING to this discussion. Also, go look at your last 20 post and realize you probably are in the same boat. Go look at my last 20 post and notice I am always adding to the conversation and that’s the difference between you, me, and your buddy Christian.
I honestly think it had more to do with a jealous cast than a “moral grounds”. I’m sure they thought, we don’t need HIM for extra attention, or we don’t want him to steal the spotlight, or they didn’t want to be asked literally thousands of times in the press junket “What was Mel Gibson like?” or this will be seen as Mel’s comeback movie not our movie. I honestly doubt it had to do with moral grounds.
The Tyson argument has this fallacy. Lets say Zach or Bradley or Ed objected to Tyson’s cameo on moral grounds. Guess what? We’re making a Vegas comedy with three barely-knowns if you bitch about it we’ll replace you! This is different, a highly, highly aware sequel that will earn them all riches and they’ll be happy to voice concern as they are now pampered stars.
io, you’re clearly one-eyed and delusional, particularly about your behaviour on this blog and your penchant for starting in on people who disagree with your views and blowing stuff waaaaay out of proportion.
again, i did not threaten actual personal harm to lex, and thinking otherwise only shows a rather keen inability to separate the literal from the figurative. you have threatened people MULTIPLE times on this blog (mostly big perm) just like perm has threatened to have sex with your mother; i don’t think either of you were actually serious…were you? maybe you were, and that’s where you’re getting confused. blaming the conflict on this blog on christian and i is patently delusional, but entirely par for the course for you.
re: this whole ‘blog persona’ excuse, i was talking to a friend about it the other day and he made an interesting observation: why is it deemed somehow acceptable to act like a raging hateful, misogynist homophobic narcissistic asshole on a blog, then call it a ‘blog persona’ and think that makes it A-OK? nobody posts hateful, prejudiced stuff for ‘fun’ unless they actually think it in their head, doing it for attention doesn’t make it acceptable, and that’s the sad truth. i’m not going to get into lex’s psychosis again and i don’t know what your dealio is, but your perception that you are some innocent here coated in teflon who never starts anything and is but an urbane contributor is extremely amusing.
and maybe the cast of ‘the hangover deux’ just thinks mel gibson is an asshole and didn’t want him in the movie. why doesn’t somebody just ask the players instead of all this useless speculation.
It’s how a sociopathic bully acts. They hit or taunt then when you react they feign innocence and try to accuse you of starting teh shit. And this is a Man’s Blog World here.
i’m fine with ‘man’s blog world’ — most of the time it doesn’t even cross my mind or phase me because i like reading/talking about movies so much, and i work in a male-dominated field and yet i almost never have to deal with sexism/misogyny in the film industry here, and just in general life i’m a fan of man (and woman, i like pretty much everybody, really, except bullies). but one thing that does disturb me about the hotblog is that particularly in lex’s case his raging misogyny and homophobia rarely seems to bother or even register with most of the blokes here with a few exceptions (unless it does and nobody says anything; i swear people are scared of lex for some unfathomable reason). if on a female-dominated blog like one of the others i like to read/comment on, if one of the women regularly came in with a bunch of ‘fuuuckiiing meeeeen’, ‘that’s so gaaaay’, ‘men can’t direct/should be this or that’, ‘men are just sex objects to me’, ‘fuck men/blah blah blah’ nonsense every 5 seconds, the other women on the blog would NEVER stand for such a thing and that female commenter would be dealt with swiftly and emphatically. but unfortunately, the reverse is not true. why is lex’s raging misogyny tolerated so blithely here by most of the male commenters? it’s as if the disrespect and hatred of women is just ‘no big deal’, and i honestly don’t get it. it’s quite disturbing and actually makes me feel sad at times.
The same reason why some people don’t question Tyson’s appearance in THE HANGOVER. Full circle!
“why is lex’s raging misogyny tolerated so blithely here by most of the male commenters?”
Because most people are smart enough to get that it’s a meta joke and a put-on.
Uh huh part 2.
indeed. i repeat:
“re: this whole ‘blog persona’ excuse, i was talking to a friend about it the other day and he made an interesting observation: why is it deemed somehow acceptable to act like a raging hateful, misogynist homophobic narcissistic asshole on a blog, then call it a ‘blog persona’ and think that makes it A-OK? nobody posts hateful, prejudiced stuff for ‘fun’ unless they actually think it in their head, doing it for attention doesn’t make it acceptable, and that’s the sad truth.”
we have a saying here lex that goes something like this:
yeah, right
the ‘it’s all a put-on’ excuse? played out. years ago.
that opportunity should come at wednesday’s afternoon press conference with phillips, galifianakis and downey for ‘due date’…it could be interesting…especially since, even though he has no dog in the fight, downey is gibson’s pal and credits him with getting him back to work…
Leah and Chris; you are not good at this. It’s not your thing. The echo chamber you two have up there is hilarious, not as hilarious as someone thinking you can have PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS on a blog, but hilarious nonetheless. Seriously, add something the discussion, please.
i nominate you, scoot, to ask the hard questions…(not that anyone will necessarily answer honestly in a public forum, but anyway; didn’t phillips already claim it was a ‘cast’ decision and not his, or am i misremembering? does zach have that much pull on his own?)
mel has obviously gone round the bend and is struggling with mental illness; i’ve heard a few rumbles here about his abuse of HGH to combat aging, is that something that’s entered the conversation there re: his extreme behaviour? just wondering because HGH abuse could actually explain some of his extreme irrationality and ott rage, it can have devastating mental/physical side-effects. tho of course HGH would only exacerbate rather than explain his rampant racism and misogyny
lol, saint io. is it as hilarious as yours and lex’s echo chamber in thread after thread, time after time, ad nauseum? what ‘private conversation’? none of my statements here were ‘private’ to christian, egg. and if i endeavoured to add as much to the conversation as you do, it would be a low hurdle indeed.
IO, last time I respond to you: who are you to determine a comment’s “worth”? And if you’re qualifying, how many of Lex’s VILE UPPERCASE RANTS count? And how many of your endless “YOU DON’T GET IT” posts count? Grow up friend, you’re 40something. The echo chamber is in your head.