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BYOB 31011

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  1. IOv3 says:

    Movielocke should bring his Cars 2 comments over here, because he has such a great point.

  2. JKill says:

    Speaking of animated flicks, saw RANGO and yeah, it’s pretty great and a genuine surprise. It’s a funny, weird, inventive, incredibly beautiful movie that I think both kids and adults (even those who don’t normally like animation) will dig. There’s some really great moments and images in it, and Depp and the rest of the cast are all great. There are few surprises and moments I’d love to talk about, but I wouldn’t dare spoil them. More than worth seeing on the big screen.

    Between this and FANTASTIC MR. FOX, I’m liking the trend (if you can call it that) of live action-directors going into animation.

  3. LYT says:

    I kinda brought this up on Twitter last week, but wanted to open it up…

    On any given night that I have free, I go through all my press invitations to see if a new movie is screening, regardless of what it is. Yet to judge by social media, most of my peers would rather go to a rep house (be it the Aero, Egyptian, NewBev, whatever). LA weekly’s lead film story these days more often than not is a feature on LACMA written by a New York freelancer.

    So…am I the only critic my age who would rather see new movies of ANY kind? Granted, plenty look forward to the major new movies. But I’d rather see something new, no matter what. And I’d rather read about the new thing, too.

    When people look back at today in 30 years, will there be anything they’re nostalgic for? It feels like nostalgia is eating itself.

  4. anghus says:

    “It feels like nostalgia is eating itself.”

    best quote i’ve heard in ages.

  5. Joe Leydon says:

    LYT: It depends. If I have to choose between seeing something that looks like it will be absolutely dreadful (judging from the trailer) for the first time or Casablanca for the zillionth time, I’ll pick Casablanca. On the other hand, between SXSW, WorldFest/Houston and the Nashville Film Festival, I’m likely going to see between 40 and 50 new films during the next month or so. And that excites me. Within that same time frame, however, I know I’m also going to see American Graffiti, Chinatown and The Searchers.

  6. sanj says:

    i finally saw Rebel without a Cause … it was okay – i mean some of the dialog was pretty bad ..twilight bad … Natalie Wood = Kristen Stewart pretty much…where’s the DP/30 with James Dean ?

  7. Al says:

    ‘Where’s the DP30 with James Dean?’
    What a line 🙂

  8. Joe Leydon says:

    It’s on the same shelf as the DP30 with D.W. Griffith.

  9. yancyskancy says:

    I don’t see why Dave couldn’t team up with James Van Praagh or somebody and do DP30s with all the late greats.

  10. JKill says:

    I don’t think it’s nostolgia to want to watch “older” movies. It’s not considered nostolgic to read literature from the past, so why should film be any different? I would be more alarmed if the emphasis was always on the current, which would essentially kill film history and culture. The vast majority of interest is still on new releases. I would feel lucky, personally, to have the opportunity to even go to a rep house like the New Bev…

  11. JKill says:

    Also, I don’t know to what extent the current weather pattern is going to end up hitting the west coast, but I hope my friends here at the hot blog and their families remain safe and sound.

  12. torpid bunny says:

    Since we have big time producers hanging around, I want to know: Hollywood is apparently interested in a Voltron movie but we can’t get a Robotech movie off the ground? What is going on? Maybe the stuff about Voltron is planted but Robotech seems like a property positioned right in the middle of the tentpole wheelhouse. Does it just need the right amount of juice or something?

    Every comic book hero ever is getting his/her own movie, we’re getting a battleship movie, but we can’t get a movie of the formative cartoon experience for an entire generation? THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS.

  13. John says:

    I figured Red Riding Hood would get panned, but I didn’t think it was going to be RotTom 7% bad. My favorite quote was someone saying it makes Twilight look like Citizen Kane.

    I’ll get worked up about Robotech after I see Gatchaman (Battle of the Planets) hit theaters. I’m beginning to fear it won’t get a US release.

    I’m actually surprised they haven’t done a live-action CGI Dyno-Mutt movie yet.

  14. Joe Leydon says:

    Sanj: Given today’s events in Japan, maybe DP should post DP30s with Akira Kurosawa and Torshiro Mifune? Or maybe, just maybe, Godzilla?

    And speaking of bad weather, big waves, etc.: Hope our friends in NZ and Australia are doing OK.

  15. sanj says:

    well if any actors / directors died in the Japan quake would
    movie people here notice ?

    DP needs to find the delorean from back to the future and go back in time to do old DP/30’s with famous actors .. just bring a bluray player with like 100 blurays
    ask J.F.K what he thinks about Oliver Stone’s J.F.K …
    or ask Marilyn Monroe what she thinks of Paris Hilton ..

  16. movielocke says:

    well, yeah, like all the recent Pixar films (save TS3) Cars 2 is expected to bomb hard (I can’t remember, was TS2 expected to be an awful disaster in 99 before anyone saw it?). But look at the second teaser. It’s got a dark opening that hints at a plot that has been kept completely hidden and a villain, presumably, that represents big oil and or pollution. Considering that the merchandise is much more popular than the movie, and this movie looks like it is way more all quadrants friendly than the first movie I’m thinking it will be Pixar’s biggest domestic and their biggest international hit. 400 million in the US and possibly over 600 international.

    The Kung Fu Panda 2 second teaser looks solid as well, but that one seems more of a 300 million domestic to me, but that is really just personal confirmation bias, though it could easily outgross cars 2 internationally. Could this be the year we have two 400 million animated films in the summer with both Pixar and Dreamworks getting a Shrek 2 level of franchise success out of their second entries?

  17. storymark says:

    Torpid – Tobey MaGuire was developing a Robotech flick post Spidey, but I assume that’s dead. I agree it could be pretty great myself. Ive just been rewatching the old show on Netflix, and while it is painfully cheesy, there’s a lot of good material there that could be adapted well.

  18. David Poland says:

    Luke… in a generalization… people who choose careers of judging art tend to be fixated on their initial idea of what great work is and have no interest or skill in seeing past their own noses.

    The people who will appreciate – and be nostalgic for – this period of film are 10-20 now.

  19. Proman says:

    Spielberg’s War Horse looks so pretty:

    http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=30392

  20. Proman says:

    And storymark, wasn’t Robotech supposed to be written Lawrence Kasdan? I was so excited when it was announced and then became sad that it wasn’t going to happen.

    I think Kasdan is still a tremendous genre writer and for whatever problems DreamCatcher had, it containined some really neat scenes.

  21. JKill says:

    Kasdan was (one of) the original writers on the CLASH OF THE TITANS remake, although I’m not sure how much of his work did/didn’t make it to the screen since he wasn’t given credit. His screenwriting credits are pretty mind blowing.

    This just reminded me that a new Kasdan should come out some time in the near future, another re-team with the great Kevin Klein.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1730687/

  22. sanj says:

    no DP/30 with Battle LA …so G4 gets to do the interviews

    Aaron Eckhart Talks Battle: LA

    http://www.g4tv.com/videos/51698/Aaron-Eckhart-Talks-Battle-LA/

  23. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:

    The Super 8 trailer is fantastic. That is all.

  24. Proman says:

    Movielocke, I think it’s pretty clear that Cars 2 will be a smash and a bigger film than the original. It may not get near $400 million but it will clear $300 mill easy.

    Kung Fu Panda will also do well but I doubt it will get much further than Shrek 4’s (admitedly very good) numbers. At least not yet.

    Me, I’d rather watch Speed Racer 2.

  25. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:

    Speaking of animated movies, Mars Needs Moms cost $150 million (double what Battle: LA cost) and tracking indicates an opening of $10 million! Yikes.

  26. torpid bunny says:

    Robotech needs like a younger acolyte of Cameron, someone who can write a tight but expansive sci-fi epic that profits from the intriguing premise, nice pacing/sweet action beats and respect for the human elements of the original edited cartoon. The major points in the story are already there for a two hour film, with lots of possibilities for resolution in second and third parts. Plus a little cheesiness would be ok but nothing like what intermittently worked in Transformers.

  27. palmtree says:

    Voltron isn’t gonna happen soon. Anime isn’t a big draw in America.

    Sure, for the Saturday morning TV crowd it might be. But film adaptations of treasured properties like Astro Boy, Pokemon (save for the sole exception of the first one), and Dragon Ball haven’t done well. But if the creators are American and not Japanese, then they can often do well like TMNT, The Last Airbender, and Transformers.

    People looking for a Battle of the Planets remake should also be aware…not happening soon.

  28. movielocke says:

    Stupid movie journalists/editors prediction: We will see the following headline at least 586 times in the next 12 months:

    “A Horse and his Boy”

    see, it’s clever cuz of this book I read as a kid and it’s got a horse and a boy and it’s spielberg so it’s clever. Funny headline, great stuff.

  29. Proman says:

    Movielocke, I have a better (as in, much much worse) one for ya:

    “Saving Private Horse”. Just remember when that horrific headline starts spreading before anyone actually sees the movie – we saw it coming.

    But the thing I am looking forward to even less… the idiot journos calling JJ the next Spielberg after Super 8 comes out and becomes HUGE. The very same year Spielberg himself puts out two films on the same week.

    Been doing this for decades now. They never learn.

    P.S. You know what is the single best thing about that ace Super 8 teaser is? That Amblin’ logo.

  30. storymark says:

    Proman – Right, I had forgotten about Kasdan. Too bad that fell through. Though if anyone is interested in resurrecting the property, I am of course, available.

  31. Proman says:

    Mars Needs Moms needs a different release date. If you are going to put out a family motion capture film while Rango is still playing at the very least you have got to make sure it doesn’t look so dim.

    I sort of feel bad for it. Then again, Gulliver’s Travels cleaned up overseas.

    By the way, the single cleverest thing about Rango is how it doesn’t look like a mo-cap movie (and, technically, I suppose it isn’t). But even if it was The the non-human creatures would have masked it well.

  32. Proman says:

    Storymark, count me in if you ever get the gig 😉 .

    Speaking of projects I’d like to have tackled – Neil Gaiman is apparently adapting Journey to the West.

    Gaiman, by the way, has an anime connection too – as the person who has adapted Princess Mononoke.

    The one anime property that I think would make an amazing and successful transition to live action is neither Akira nor Pokermon (brrrrr…). It’s Lupin III.

  33. Krillian says:

    Looks like Imagi studios that was making Gatchaman went under last year. Then in July some sites said “it’s not dead yet!” but there’s nothing new since. From the studio that lost a ton of dough on Astro Boy.

    Seeing Rango tomorrow…

    Can’t say I’ll see Mars Needs Moms though. Isn’t two-thirds of the point of the original story is that it’s Berkeley Breathed’s artwork? Also any movie that uses Three Dog Night’s “Mama Told Me Not to Come” in its ads tends to suck. (See also the James Spader-Angela Bassett space disaster Supernova.)

  34. Joe Straatmann says:

    Really, they need to re-tool that two-movie adaptation they were going to for the anime Monster way back when New Line was still doing stuff and make it a primetime drama. That shit would sell if done right. But two movies? Way too many characters and way too much stuff to get through all that in even a decent fashion.

    But instead, they picked one of Naoki Urasawa’s other works to develop, Pluto. Pluto is essentially an adult re-telling of Astro Boy via Minority Report, Blade Runner, and a touch of Total Recall. I’d so be there opening night (Or day, as it were. I go to early matinees so I don’t have to deal with chatty teenagers and their girlfriends who want to sabotage the viewing experience for everyone because their boyfriends chose icky sci-fi over the rom-com with one of the cast members from Grey’s Anatomy). I don’t think anyone would be there with me.

    And the PG-13 Akira is a train wreck waiting to happen, even if I like the Hughes Brothers.

  35. sanj says:

    i saw a few movies

    burlesque – cher is scary. she needs to be in the saw films.
    Kristen Bell – stop acting in movies go back to tv .

    paranormal activity 2 – not scary but boring .

  36. storymark says:

    Kristen Bell is a movie?

  37. sanj says:

    Kristen Bell was in Burlesque who really didn’t need to be …

    Couples Retreat – You Again – When in Rome – movies i didn’t like at all and didn’t get great reviews .

    what would happen if somebody printed out the RottenTomoates or IMDB reviews of these movies and just gave it to Kristen and see what her reaction is ..
    would it be “yeah i need to pick better scripts ” or “who cares ? i got paid big money to hang out with Betty White and Vince Vaughn”

    “She needs to fire her agent”

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0068338/board/flat/162598584

    “Who is it that decided she was hot?”

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0068338/board/flat/155814626

    anyways – still want a DP/30 with Kristen Bell…

    DP missed out on yogi bear interview but maybe you can
    get one of the smurfs ..papa smurf might be busy..

  38. Rob says:

    “Also any movie that uses Three Dog Night’s “Mama Told Me Not to Come” in its ads tends to suck.”

    Boogie Nights?

  39. York Durden says:

    The SUPER 8 trailer did give me chicken skin. Between this stuff and STAR TREK it’s clear Abrams and I had similar childhood heroes, were imprinted by the same iconic images, etc, like many others. But to what artistic end, other than the the big payday for all involved, is this stuff produced? Is there nothing new to say? Pre-sold nostalgia, or outright propaganda packaged with familiar elements like BATTLE: LA. Those are the choices these days.

  40. IOv3 says:

    There’s no such thing as pre-sold nostalgia. You cannot be nostalgic for something that’s in front of you. Super 8 will be what it will be and never has there been a generation who gets everything they ever wanted on film, but some how still find a way to be miserable about it. Seriously, could someone please explain to me why there is such misery about this?

  41. Don R. Lewis says:

    York and Paul chimed in before me but…damn. Looove that Super 8 trailer! Wonder if feeding into 28-45 year old 80’s movie nerds will pay off at the box office but I cannot wait to find out.

  42. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Have some friends up in Ibaraki, Japan so hope they’re okay. Really, it’s been quite a shitty start to the year for natural disasters.

    Super 8 really shows the Spielberg influences, but I’m a little puzzled by the title – anyone know why they went for that take?

  43. Krillian says:

    Mm. Forgot about Boogie Nights. Just rewatched the trailer. Feels almost old-fashioned for a movie not that old. Dang that was a good cast. Wahlberg, Moore, Reynolds, Cheadle, Reilly, Macy, Graham, Molina, PS Hoffman, L Guzman, T Jane, R Jay, PB Hall…

    Okay, I’m ready for Paul Thomas Anderson’s next movie please. Really hope The Master is still going to happen.

  44. IOv3 says:

    It seems the characters are making a movie on a Super 8 cam and that’s the reason behind it.

  45. leahnz says:

    fuck earthquakes, enough already. hope your peeps are ok foamy, end of days stuff. my thoughts – and indeed it may be grandiose but probably safe to say in this instance – and those of my country are keenly with the japanese in their time of horror and loss. i feel a bit like whatshisname in the backseat of the cop car in “the hangover” screaming WHAT IS GOING ON? note to world: please stopping ripping yourself apart at the seams, you are freaking us out.

    maybe they’ll box set ‘super 8’ with ‘poltergeist’ as “movies you coulda SWORE were directed by steven s (but weren’t, apparently)”

    foamy re: super 8, if you didn’t catch it, the kids were making a little zombie movie or some such on super 8, very nostalgian, also it seems an entire cadre of directors of the modern era claim to have started out with 8 in the days of yore (even as recent as blomkamp if memory serves, though something more shithouse than that is ringing a faint bell so that might be wrong), so perhaps it’s a bit of a nod to the medium that helped spawn a certain visual style as well

  46. machiav says:

    Sure looks like he’s directing to me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6BC30xmCYs

    So Mission Impossible 3 was his ode to Cameron (True Lies).

    And Star Trek was him trying to tap in to the fun space opera of the original Star Wars trilogy.

    Might as well next recreate the beard’s filmmaking of the late 70s/early 80s.

  47. Foamy Squirrel says:

    But the characters having a super 8 hobby doesn’t appear to be the focus of the movie. It would be like calling Jaws “Fishing Boat” or Poltergeist “TV Set”.

  48. Proman says:

    Super 8 is not just the camera format the characters use, it’s what the 60’s and 70’s generation of filmmakers started out using to make make their early films. The title has deeper meaning there.

    I like literal titles:

    There Will Be Horses
    Amistud

  49. IOv3 says:

    FS, the trailer seems to hint that the town is being sealed off, so I figure that it’s the power of the footage they shot on the SUPER 8 that saves the town in some way.

    ETA: Poltergeist being referred to as TV SET would have been awesome.

  50. Foamy Squirrel says:

    I’d hope that it features beyond the 20min intro sequence, but… that seems… pretty gimmicky, even for Spielberg.

    Please no “found footage” or “monster is destroyed by being caught on film” ending.

  51. Krillian says:

    It may be like calling Poltergeist “TV Set” but they can’t call it “Alien.” That’s been used.

  52. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Maybe they can retroactively call Alien “Space Refinery” or “Android”?

  53. IOv3 says:

    FS, the kid has a moment where he’s looking up into the light in the trailer, so I am going to go with ALIEN GETTING KILLED ON FILM for 400.

    ETA: Actually, Space Refinery was the original title of OUTLAND but OUTLAND just worked so much better!

  54. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Oh god, not a “Kid puts self and everyone around them in danger through stupid attempt to prove themselves” movie.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InfantImmortality

  55. IOv3 says:

    No, it gave off more of a THE CRAZIES vibe in terms of the military, the flamethrowers, and what not. Your love of Tv Tropes aka the website that fantasizes about Linkara screwing Iron Liz in various sentai outfits, is pretty trippy.

  56. Proman says:

    “I’d hope that it features beyond the 20min intro sequence, but… that seems… pretty gimmicky, even for Spielberg.”

    It’s Abrams, dammit!

    And gimmicky would be having all the characters rounded up in end up in the same room of the Super 8 motel.

    I just think it’s about 8 kids who will save the world.

    Super 8 is the new Magnificent 7, yo.

  57. IOv3 says:

    I just want a bad ass alien hunter in a movie, whose not a jerkass. He eventually grows to like the kids, gives them a high five, and heads out on his spaceship. Yep. High fives and space ships. Good times. Good times.

  58. Foamy Squirrel says:

    “It’s Abrams, dammit!”

    But Abrams isn’t gimmicky when it comes to kids. Hence Spielberg.

    I do like TV Tropes as a site, but it does have a pretty heavy anime skew… I prefer it for the film and tv tropes (which are usually pretty accurate).

  59. bulldog68 says:

    You know what Super 8 reminded me of…Explorers. And I fucking loved Explorers. Yes York, I got the chicken skin too. That sense of wonder in a child’s eye is hard to capture again with everyone being written as such a smart ass. I like how this looks.

    Not feeling as much love for Cars 2 though. Cars 1 is my least liked Pixar flick, and I don’t think this will rival Toy Story 3 at the box office as some are predicting. Woody and Buzz are the icons of CG. They basically launched the genre. Cant see Mcqueen and Mator doing the same thing. It’ll make bank no doubt, but not TS3 bank.

  60. Proman says:

    “But Abrams isn’t gimmicky when it comes to kids.”

    In all honesty, Abrams is pretty gimicky about EVERYTHING. And I have this cup of Slusho© to prove it.
    (What does Super 8 as a title have to do with kids anyway?)

    And Foamy, your use of “gimmicky” is pretty well, you know.

    Besides Spielberg is about as free of those types of gimmicks as a blockbuster maker can get. Especially the type we discussed here. Just as there is a huge difference between being gimmicky and high concept. Last I checked he was making Lincoln and not Lincoln vs Capcom (make it happen).

  61. IOv3 says:

    The thing of it is: Lightning and Mater are indeed iconic to kids. People go on and on about Cars not being their fave Pixar film and Cars getting a sequel because of the merch, but what is missing from all of that opinion is the fact that kids love Cars. They love it.

    Seriously, you can’t show a kid Ratatouille and expect them to get it. The same goes with Wall-E. Cars on the other hand, they got, and that’s why they bought the merch in droves. It’s also why the film could easily beat Toy Story 3 domestically.

  62. Proman says:

    I am down with high fives though. Sorry to get all serious here but if there’s one thing the Japan situation has reminded of again is that mutual good will is underrated.

  63. Foamy Squirrel says:

    “And Foamy, your use of “gimmicky” is pretty well, you know.”

    I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU MEAN.

    *shifty eyes*

    I think Abrams is more gimmicky when it comes to Deus ex Unobtainium, but as far as kids having parent issues while being menaced by monster/alien/nazis? That’s Spielberg’s wheelhouse.

  64. Proman says:

    I’ll give you Wall-E but I can picture a kid watching and enjoying Ratatouille just fine, actually. Definitely more-so than TS3.

    Speaking of Cars 2, was Lasester always attached to co-directing it? I seem to remember IMdb crediting only one person (Brad Lewis). Not that it necessarily means anythin.

  65. IOv3 says:

    Yes it is Proman. Now let us refer to movies in their most simplest form. I will continue what FS started: Falling Down aka Crazy White Guy.

    ETA: If you really think about it, Pixar make these time less films for everyone but CARS is the closest they have ever gotten to a pure kids film.

  66. leahnz says:

    “Super 8 is not just the camera format the characters use, it’s what the 60′s and 70′s generation of filmmakers started out using to make make their early films. The title has deeper meaning there.”

    uh, are you paraphrasing me there, proman? i just said that exact same thing a half hour before in my third paragraph.

    i don’t think stylistically ‘8’ looks anything like ‘the crazies’ past the ‘mysterious military occupation’ concept, which isn’t exactly unique to ‘the crazies’. i bet the ‘unsubs’ – whatever they are – aren’t actually evil this time out and the kids help them get away, just a hunch for no reason other than that Spielberg’s – oops i mean abrams’ – pendulum seems due to swing back to the ‘good aliens’ side of the force.

  67. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Nah, Falling Down would be “Suitcase and Shotgun”

  68. IOv3 says:

    I see your challenge and raise you a “Flat-top and Hornrims.”

  69. leahnz says:

    ‘lord of the rings’ would be ‘a really long walk’

  70. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Or “why didn’t we ride the eagles?”

    ETA “Dude, where my eagle?”

  71. IOv3 says:

    Or “Eagles Are Jerks.”

  72. Proman says:

    “I think Abrams is more gimmicky when it comes to Deus ex Unobtainium, but as far as kids having parent issues while being menaced by monster/alien/nazis? That’s Spielberg’s wheelhouse.”

    See, that, right there is the difference I am talking about. Besides it’s not a gimmick if it actually informes the plot and fabric of the film. If I was more sardonically inclined I’d invoke auteur theory here but I’ll let it pass.

    Not to mention that some the things you’ve mentioned are the VERY same things so many are wetting their pants and skirts over today. And for a good reason.

    “uh, are you paraphrasing me there, proman? i just said that exact same thing a half hour before in my third paragraph.”

    Sorry, that wasn’t intentional at all. I don’t think I’ve read that message.

    P.S. So I take “Edmond” would now be “Me so horny”?

  73. leahnz says:

    the flying nazgul woulda picked off those little morsels had they tried to fly on the eagles to get to mordor, silly!

  74. IOv3 says:

    Excuses. Excuses. Excuses. http://youtu.be/1yqVD0swvWU

  75. leahnz says:

    that reminds me, slightly but not really related:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXA3SMNl60

    that is like the funniest thing ever. i guess it’s the bunnies

  76. Proman says:

    I have decided that the ring in Lord of the Rings is just a MacGuffin. Such cheap gimmicky crap 😉 .

  77. IOv3 says:

    Okay, that is pretty damn funny. Goodfellas or “That Film About Hijacking.”

  78. Foamy Squirrel says:

    True, it was perhaps a poor choice of words. Agatha Christie is probably one of the progenitors for “The butler did it”, but her work was no less effective for having helped spawn that cliche. As is commonly the case, it tends to revolve around execution.

    I personally find that Abrams sets up well but executes merely okay, whereas Spielberg executes extremely well. The trailer calls back to a lot of Spielberg’s 80s stuff (particularly the “kid perspective”) that now tends to be thought about on trope lines. Handled badly, anything that thematic has the possibility of turning into hammy cliche city – which Star Trek dipped into occasionally with Sulu’s swordfight on the drill and every time “Red Matter” was brought up.

    I want Indy-style homage, not Piranha 3D-style wallowing.

  79. leahnz says:

    foamy, you’ll get nothing and like it

  80. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Saving Private Ryan = “Listening to Edith Piaf”

  81. leahnz says:

    that could also be ‘inception’

  82. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Am I banned from seeing Super 8 now? >:o

  83. IOv3 says:

    No Inception would be “A Spinning Top.”

    FS: yes. Yes you are.

  84. Foamy Squirrel says:

    “Spinning Tops and Hollow Bishops”

  85. leahnz says:

    hey that face symbol:

    >:o

    that could be used instead of the title ‘mad max2/road warrior’. just that alarmed-looking little mohawk stick drawing dude

    (maybe that’s getting a little obscure)

  86. IOv3 says:

    The Road Warrior or “Lord Humungus’ Cod Piece.”

  87. JKill says:

    CEDAR RAPIDS was great. A funny, sweet, kind little movie with a terrific ensemble. A charcter-driven, 70s style comedy. Loved it.

    Also finally saw NEVER LET ME GO, which was mesmerizing and I’m still marinating about it but wow… Pretty incredible. Beautiful but also very tough and unafraid to deal with the biggest of issues. (Oddly, the two recent movies it most reminded me of were BENJAMIN BUTTON and WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE, but I’m not sure why…)Top-notch cinema, and a real punch to the gut.

    Poland’s review for it is dead-on and passionate and perceptive, by the way.

    http://moviecitynews.com/2010/09/review-never-let-me-go/

  88. Rob says:

    So now that the Bonnie Fuller-ization of The Hollywood Reporter is complete, has anyone else noticed how (and I apologize if anyone is offended by this word) retarded it has become?

    Like, I knew it would be dumbed down, but hour-by-hour Charlie Sheen updates? Entire stories based on what celebrities (or their staff) write on Twitter? Such headlines as “Billy Crystal to play aging vampire in webisode” and, my favorite, “Actress Lake Bell reviews ‘highly unaffordable’ Maserati Gran Turismo.”

    It makes HuffPo look like the print edition of The Atlantic.

  89. sanj says:

    so the reviews for Battle LA are coming in and they all seem to be in the 5/10 range ..wait 4 months for the dvd comes out ..

    here’s 12 minutes of Battle LA the video game

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTV8dFHOzW8

  90. cadavra says:

    CLOVERFIELD would be…anything else.

  91. yancyskancy says:

    I finally got around to watching the new SUPER 8 trailer, and it seems pretty clear that the the kids’ camera captures the train derailment (it falls over when the kids skedaddle). Later, we see the kids looking at footage and being amazed. We see them filming other stuff, too. Obviously, their movie-making is a major part of the plot, so why WOULDN’T it be called SUPER 8?

  92. Pat says:

    Cloverfield was stuck with that title. It’s what everybody on the Internet had been calling it for months

  93. Proman says:

    Yeah, yancy these complaints about the title are both premature and rather wrongheaded.

    But speaking of things that are executed well, I did love Cloverfield. It was more ‘3D’ then most 3D films.

    I thought that title invoked some of that Chinatownesque vibe (though that’s pushing it a bit). Sure, it made no sense but neither does THX 1138.

  94. Proman says:

    Also, ‘Jaws’ would be ‘Teeth’. And ‘Teeth’ would be ‘I Can’t Believe it’s Not Mouth’.

    Or ‘She’s Just That Into You”.

  95. Foamy Squirrel says:

    “These complaints”? MY complaints! I demand full recognition, bitch! 😉

    It may be a little premature, but I’m just having problems seeing how having a Super 8 hobby is going to be relevant after they see the crash footage. The trailer certainly doesn’t tell us – from there on out all the trailer shows is standard “hidden creature in town with army hunting” stuff, albeit with ET-style music instead of horror music. There’s 1 shot right at the end with the reel hanging in the air, but we’ve seen lots of shots with stuff hanging in the air already so it’s not out of the ordinary.

    I just wish it were a case of “show, don’t tell”. We’ve been told Super 8 is important, but we’re given no hints as to why – and what we have been shown seems to indicate the movie could play perfectly fine without any further use beyond what we’ve seen.

    So… why go for that angle? Why tell us one thing and show us a trailer with an emphasis elsewhere?

  96. yancyskancy says:

    For all we know, everything in the plot hinges on the kids’ super 8 footage. Or not. Maybe they just didn’t want to spell everything out in the trailer.

    Foamy, I’m guessing FARGO is not on your favorite titles ever list. 🙂

  97. Foamy Squirrel says:

    Well, now that you mention it…

    Nah. It’s admittedly a small thing – it was idle wondering that got out of hand.

    Also, while I remember – for all the peeps at SXSW (Leydon, LYT, Poland, Don Lewis etc.), say “Hi” to Felicia Day for me. 😉

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So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

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