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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
Nice to know Jim Lee designed that shitty suit he’s wearing. He also looks very alien which I guess is the point, but he’s still not truth, justice, and the American way. That seems to be the point but his face is all wrong for Supes and that hair is a tremendous system. He’s still completely and utterly wrong and this just makes me appreciate Garfield even more as Petey. That’s right, I am looking forward to Amazing Spider-man! A MAN CAN CHANGE HIS MIND DAMN IT :P!
(sigh)…he looks like a stock baddie who finally got his hands on the hero’s suit and “NOW I HAVE THE POWER, MWAH HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!”(yes, I know that isn’t how Superman’s power works, but I’m just pointing out the impression of the photo, which is basically “now I can rob the Metropolis Bank, MWAAAH HAA HAA HAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!”.
And Supes peak isn’t quite a widow yet, but the husband’s in hospice for damn sure.
On second thought, he looks like an evil Ukrainian tennis player.
I like it. Snyder can do NO WRONG in my book. BOWING. Just wish someone else was in Amy Adams’ role, especially in the Synderverse. Not even a slam on Adams, just she’s so vaudeville and winsome and sunny; If it’s Snyder, this shit should be suicidal, gloomy, EVIL, mind-fuck depressing and GRIM, evil, CORRUPTING like the Janie’s Got a Gun video where Supes is having fragmented nightmares like the rattle-cam cell bar bits in Requiem for a Dream with some metal playing.
I liked his looks better when he was younger. I feel so dirty for admitting that, like I’m giving in to ageism or something. But it is the truth. It’d be ridiculous to say a guy still in his 20s was old or aging or anything like that. But, when he was very young and just starting out, he was so cute and a real hot hunk. Then something gradually happened. As he grew, it’s like some late hormone spurt dulled and thickened his features. The 20s are awfully late to still be growing or having large physical changes still happening, aren’t they? Anton Yelchin is the same way. He BARELY looks like the same person he was just 2 years ago. But he is 22, so such a great change makes more sense to me.
Everything seems fine except the hair. A touch more product and he could have a Chris Isaak thing going.
Regarding the suit, I’ve always championed changing it. Fanboys cry out whenever you call it underwear. “NO, it’s SHORTS!” I’m sorry, but anything hugging his crotch like a two dollar hooker, would have to be called underwear. Women’s high cut brief panties, to be specific. Shorts are items of clothing you can go out and mow the lawn in. Would anyone do that wearing only Superman’s “shorts”? No, because they are ladies’ panties, and the neighbors would call the cops. Therefore, for the longest time I was a champion of just getting rid of them.
However, the pro-panty people put up some fierce and good arguments, like color balancing the costume, breaking up the blue unitard look, and hiding the package from the kiddies. The last argument fails because the panties are so darn tight and high cut, but the others make sense. So then the compromise: Turn the panties into real shorts, by making them MUCH bigger. Hem hitting mid-thigh or top of the knee length. Lower the boots from knee-high to military length, to preserve the same amount blue space.
Despite the fanboy backlash, something had to happen to the underwear. Either they had to become much bigger, or go away entirely, because crotch hugging panties were just too ridiculous.
My first thought was “YES!”
One photo and its already better than Superman Returns.
It may be just me, but he seems to have a little Christian Slater going on…
Doesn’t matter what is released from this film, we wont know the quality of the film until we see the film. Snyder is too much like Bay – in that stills from the film and trailers are great, but the movies, not so much. I suppose the promotional material could make it look like crap, but I doubt it. Snyder’s (and Bay’s) trailers always look top notch.
I’m not sure about this. Could be okay. Unlike Nolan’s Batman, where people wanted a gritty, grounded Batman, did anyone say, I want a pissed-off, angry Superman. Because that’s what we’re getting.
On the plus side, the action will probably be the best we’ve seen for a Superman, but it’ll be filled with lots of painterly slow-mo. Also, I’m not sure we’re going to get a lot of truth, justice and the American way. He’s just going to get in lots of fights.
So, could be an okay action movie, but I doubt anyone who cares for the character will forget Christopher Reeves.
All that said, I do kind of like the regal, cloak-like cape.
I’m not a diehard comics fan, but he looks nothing like how I imagine Superman looking. He looks like a really pissed off Cillian Murphy dressed up in a ridiculous suit. That honeycomb design is totally idiotic. Doesn’t look iconic in any way. Dumb.
What is it with that honeycomb stuff anyway? It looks like something a professional athlete would wear – not a superhero. I remember when I first saw it on Raimi’s Spider-Man and thought, some high school kid supposedly made that?
I think Captain America proved an earnest hero can still be entertaining. I don’t need a grittier Superman. I’d prefer a Superman movie I can take my kids to.
I wish more super hero movies would follow X-Men: First Class and Captain America, and put the action in a different era. Superman in the 1950s would be awesome. Similarly, Batman in 30s noir would be cool, too.
The suit actually looks more like chain mail dipped in some kind of rubber or polymer, which is fine, but doing the same texture to the big S on his chest is kind of weird.
The honeycomb comes from the comics. Apparently, in Jim Lee’s head, that’s the material one uses to make their superhero costume. If you look at his NuDc designs. They are all about piping and honeycomb.
Outside of Hal’s second thought, which is fucking tremendous. Cavill works for the Superman the NuDC wants to sell. They want him to look more alien and be super moody, and that’s this picture in a nut shell.
I am still not a fan of this version of Superman or the idea of a reboot of one of the most commonly known origin stories outside of Jesus. It seems pointless but hopefully we will get some good Supes action for once on screen. That would be a change.
He looks like Mitt Romney.
JS Cavill works for the Superman the NuDC wants to sell.
Really?!?! I thought DC52 “was about digital comics”.
The embossed insignia and very long cape. If you look at the side of his leg, you can see a moulding hem of some kind. He’s a Kryptonian Centurion.
Very Raimi-Spidey in aesthetic. Shit does not look comfortable. He must squeak when he walks.
I’m actually surprised we can see his eyes. I thought the Jim Lee influence would demand laser vision.
Smith – that’s funny. Romney always looked like Jor-El to me.
DC52? No one calls or refers to it that way. It’s the NuDC and you damn well know, when you aren’t just being a jerk, that it’s about relaunching the titles to GUYS who they hope will download them. Seriously man, you know what the Supes design looks like, this looks just like it, and that’s just the facts jack.
Even in a still image it’s got that Snyder stink.
We truly are living in the “Hater Generation”.
The internet has given too many disgruntled, low self esteem having, over analyzing, negative morons a platform to spew the results of their pathetic lives which is a narrow, negative and hateful viewpoint on anything around thats highly anticipated, popular or successful.
What happened to the time when we rallied around our heroes and tried our best to emulate them? That we didn’t immediately have this knee jerk reaction whenever we hear of a celebrity or pro athlete do something wrong that is simple human error as if we all of a sudden are so much more morally just and right in our own lives? Most times there isnt even too much to support these claims…just an article you read.
What I’m saying is man….we’ve been waiting for a Superman movie for almost 20 years to even try to match up with the original. This Superman movie has the best chance with easily the best cast, producer, and director behind it’s ever had behind it in decades..and right away the haters come flocking in with their lame attempts to be witty(see above pictures) or just plain angry and hate filled as if so much can be determined from ONE picture.
The internet should really have some posting laws that give the normal people a posted indication that haters will not be infecting a given blog or article with a indicator like a “Hater Free” sign or something so they don’t walk into thie area of these type of clows who just have something bad to say about anything. Just to say it.
Or better yet…a “Haternet” that would give these losers an entirely new internet experience where they talk to people who share their same dim view on life. People who are frustrated with their jobs, out of shape, never kissed a girl, still live at home, got bullied in high school….whatever qualities that contribute to this ridiculous amount of negativity that has simply infected the online experience totally.
In closing…
1.)The suit looks damn good. (Not perfect, but good)
2.)Nothing is wrong with his hair. Funny how no one ever bashed the slicked back look of Reeve in Superman. As if Superman had pommeade hidden in his jacket everytime he changed from Clark Kent.
3.)The look of determination on his face in the pic is fine and true to the character. Supes isn’t always sweetness and light. Or did we forget him actually risking the planet and the space-time continium in the original movie DESPITE his fathers protest?
4.) Just stop it….really. Stop the hate.
I like my job, live in my own house, am married and in shape, and didn’t get bullied in high school. Just for the record.
The cast is good, but give me Bryan Singer over Snyder any day. Yes it’s just one image, and one can’t judge a movie based on it, but it’s an ugly image and that’s just not how I imagine Superman looking. I don’t like the suit and Cavill doesn’t look right to me. Hopefully, on a blog devoted to talking movies, people are allowed to express their opinions. That’s some nice ra-ra rhetoric though.
Superman. Ribbed for your pleasure.
Nero Angelo sounds a lot like Lebron James. “Hey people, stop been haters, ie. critical of me, I can only handle praise and encouragement.”
Nero, why you gotta be a “hater” hater? What ever happened to the time when somebody could have a plain old negative response to a movie photo without instantly being labelled a “hater”?
He looks ok as superman but to me he still lacks alittle. Now if they had of cast Tom Welling for the part they would have hit it right on the head. To me Tom just makes a good Supes. But that’s just my Opinion!
Oh yea I still think the movie is going to be awesome but thats cause I’m a big Superman fan anyway LOL
It looks fine to me. The cape maybe could be pared down a bit. I like the blue. The only negative thing I’d say about the dimples or suit itself is that it could be seen as the suit containing some special power itself. Which, I don’t know the series, does it? Like flame retardant?
I think the texture helps prevent a cheesy look of someone wearing a shiny costume like the ones that come out of box for Halloween. I don’t remember Christopher Reeves being super cut, was he? People have joked for years about Supes wearing tights but if you look at football players before they pad up or guys who are really swo’l at the gym, the Underarmour they wear looks really cool. Different than tights but it’s as tight as surgical gloves. I wonder if in the movie that’s what Supes’ costume would look like, only the added divets.
I’m all for changing things up but I hope the look is a little less drawn than 300 or Watchmen.
Oh, and I’m feelin’ ya, Nero!
Rick – I’m with you. It should have been Welling. I find it ironic that the day this is released. Welling split CAA for WME. No matter what he says, it couldn’t be easy to devote ten years to a character, keeping an entire network alive, while the sister division is perpetually looking to fuck you over. I always knew Horn never understood the DC property, but you would assume Robinov got it. Sad.
And Nero – this is not the best team ever put on Superman. That would have been AK Walker and Wolfgang Petersen.
I don’t think he looks bad. It does have a very Snyder-Man feel to it in the color palette. I’m more annoyed it’s Zod, again. It isn’t the character that people liked, it was Stamp. Like Montalban.
Brainiac, Metallo, Darkseid…thousand better choices.
JS – I know. I’m just busting your chops.
Like I’m going to about Rise POTA.
“Or better yet…a ‘Haternet’ that would give these losers an entirely new internet experience where they talk to people who share their same dim view on life. People who are frustrated with their jobs, out of shape, never kissed a girl, still live at home, got bullied in high school….whatever qualities that contribute to this ridiculous amount of negativity that has simply infected the online experience totally.”
Wow, who knew you could tell so much about people from their criticisms of a single photograph?
No problem with Cavill. I think he looks good. But not being a comic book guy, the reptile looking pattern of the suit is distracting. I can see the “honeycomb” argument. But at first glance it looked more like scales on a lizard than honeycomb. Still does for me.
I saw a few episodes of Smallville, and granted I haven’t seen the newer ones, so maybe Welling got better…but I’d never cast him in a big screen version of Superman. H’s a lightweight. Perfect for a WB tv show aimed at girls, but not for a movie.
Look….a SUPERMAN movie in this current political/economic climate will never, ever work. The character is too goody two-shoes and nice to suit our cynical “hater” society. Please save spewing about certain storylines that show Supes to be more than that. You make him too gritty, it turns off people who love the iconic good guy nature of him. But to really grab that iconongraphy, you have to hearken back to the Reeves version and the world- particularly the U.S. is too changed to let that work.
I had the same doubts about Captain America but they did the smart thing and placed him in the 40’s where that sort of “aww shucks” uber-team member stuff works. I’m guessing Cap will be distraught about what America has come to when THE AVENGERS plops and that will be the same reason Superman fails.
So, there.
I’m saying a Superman in the 1950s Cold War, America rah-rah era would be awesome! That’s the way to make him work in a movie now.
Not. I’m sure all the Boomers enjoyed that honeyed nostalgia of Captain Bore-merica, but it lulled me halfway to sleep. Please no more dork-ass period superhero movies. Hayley Atwell is a pretty girl, but you’d never know it from her grandma haircut and OLD-ASS wardrobe in Captain Boredom.
NO MORE PERIOD BULLSHIT, thanks.
Perm – You’re talking about a superhero movie, right? These are not tornadic performances.
Evans got massive kudos for doing what was basically Welling’s Clark Kent. Ryan Reynolds wasn’t even capable of being that good.
On top of it, we’re talking about Snyder for god’s sake. He translated the Watchmen shot-for-shot and forgot the story in the process.
I actually know why Welling wasn’t in consideration. It’s a rights issue over Superboy/Superman.
@ Paul MD. Good to hear you have a life(Nice “not me” rhetoric) Nobody said that you or anyone else shouldnt voice your opinion. It’s the pointless negativity I was talking about and I made that obvious. If you don’t like something, thats fine. But the pointless nitpicking and just flat out hating.
@ Yancyskancy: Who knew so much criticism for a look and movie courl come from a “single photograph”?
@ Martin S: What movie of those two would you be referring to involving Superman that is or has been in production?
@ Hallick: If it was “plain old negative response” to it, I would not have commented. Im not telling anybody they have to like the costume or anything. Im just saying that can we just ease up in the immediate bashing after seeing something as little as a picture instead of “Its HORRIBLE. Worse pic ever! Looks like Peter Pan. Oh my GAWD where did he do his hair?!? This Movie is going to SUCK!!”
@ Nick F: Well you sound alot Like Charles Barkley. Broken, bitter and pathetic. Nobody said anything about not being able to hand critique. Its just all about putting it in context. A Costume cant completely ruin a movie any more than a YOUNG B-ball Superstar whos been two the NBA Finals twice by the age of 25 losing in the finals. He hasn’t even peaked yet and nobody hasn’t even seen ONE clip of this movie. Hate and jealousy. Pure and simple.
@ Triple Option: Thanks bro.
Internet Tough Guy Alert.
The flipside to that is people who aggressively defend harmless criticisms and nitpicking and act like someone insulted their mother, sister, wife, daughter, and dog simultaneously. This is a movie blog. What do you expect? Not all criticism is evidence of “hate and jealousy.” It actually is not “pure and simple.” I hate the photo. It’s ugly. The costume is stupid. Cavill doesn’t look right for the part. That being said, the movie might kick ass. We shall see.
@ Paul MD
Nobody said anything about “mothers and dogs”. Something on your mind you want to share with us?..
You “Hate” the photo? really? Whats it done to you? Attacked your mother and dog simultaneously?
So look..those in glass houses..you know the rest
You’re showing more than enough aggression yourself pal.
“Pure and simple”
Yes, Nero is a bit of a drama queen/king/prince.
But that fits the room, no?
I would disagree that Zack Snyder is much better than McG, in terms of a director close to doing a Superman… and certainly not as talented a storyteller as Bryan Singer. And Wolfgang Petersen kicks his ass.
More interesting to me is that those trying to be positive are hoping for a “kick ass action movie.” Maybe. I haven’t seen much great action that doesn’t look and feel like a videogame from Snyder.
You know what people who post their opinions on blogs don’t like? Other people posting their opinions on blogs acting like they have the moral high ground, especially when they’re new to the sandbox.
We’ve all been guilty of it, but we’re all also still here. And for the record, the Hot Blog’s been blessedly hate-free toward fellow-posters for weeks now, maybe nigh on a month or two. We’ve been having some pretty sweet discussions about movies and the people who make them. NOBODY has been spewing hate, which is not always the case here.
But thanks for poisoning the well, Nero. About time to grab your fiddle, isn’t it?
Dammit Poland, I was enjoying the wind in my sails. (Did it really take me NINE MINUTES to write that? Sheesh.)
DP, did you really think the action (like the opening sequence) in WATCHMEN looked “like a video game”? I don’t get how the criticism applies to that film, regardless of what you think of it. It’s valid for 300 and SUCKER PUNCH but I think DOTD (which was a very good action film) and WATCHMEN prove that he can do more (relatively) grounded work if he wants to.
“Don R. Lewis says:
August 5, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Look….a SUPERMAN movie in this current political/economic climate will never, ever work. The character is too goody two-shoes and nice to suit our cynical “hater” society. Please save spewing about certain storylines that show Supes to be more than that. You make him too gritty, it turns off people who love the iconic good guy nature of him. But to really grab that iconongraphy, you have to hearken back to the Reeves version and the world- particularly the U.S. is too changed to let that work.
I had the same doubts about Captain America but they did the smart thing and placed him in the 40′s where that sort of “aww shucks” uber-team member stuff works. I’m guessing Cap will be distraught about what America has come to when THE AVENGERS plops and that will be the same reason Superman fails.
So, there.”
What?…
So you’re basically saying that you’ve figured out that based on a pic you saw that a Superman movie won’t work?
Part of this theory of your is that “People dont want a “gritty” Superman? Are you implying because he’s not giving you the thumbs up with an eagle on his arm that he’s too gritty? Get off it….whatever fans that are “turned off” by this graphic and gritty image os Supes doesn’t know the character anyway so who cares if you don’t like it?..
You also said Superman was “goofy”? Where did you see this? Reeves take on Clark Kent may have been. But thats it. Superman and Cap arent all that different in character. Maybe they’re “earnest” as you put it…but hardly goofy.
Dude…you’re like a poster boy for just the type of Hater I was talking about with junk.
“Superman Fails”…like you’d know
“So there”
“Internet Tough Guy Alert.”
No, it’s not that. It’s that other thing…
Warners has two strikes against this picture and until we see a trailer they’re not going to go away.
1. Superman Returns
Lukewarm reception. It didn’t exactly get anyone amped up for more.
2. Zach Snyder
This strike is meaningless to anyone who doesn’t follow the industry. For everyone that does, we all know that creative and financial slide Snyder’s been on.
One good trailer could reset the count, but since that’s a year away we’re forced to deal with them.
Does anyone see this movie doing more than 200 million domestic?
Stuff it Bordwell.
Don’t blame me for your little slap fests in the past with this “poisoning the well” and this fiddle crap. Talk about a phoney “moral high ground”…just shut up.
Poland you clearly are just hating on Snyder. Your ignoring the fact That David Goyer and Johnathan Nolan are WRITING the movie. Snyder doesnt have to have the best storytelling abilities with the duo responsible for wrting the highest grossing superhero movie in HISTORY.
Other than 2 mediocre chick flicks in both Charlies Angels movies, what has Mc G done at all that was worth anything?
But you believe he’s better than Snyder??..
300 and Watchmen vs Charlies Angels 1&2 and the worst Terminator movie of all time.
I think we all know who the “Drama Queen” here know dont we Charlies Angels fans…..
Martin S, you’re kind of why studios make garbage. You don’t need a good performance for Superman? Well hell, let’s just find some homeless guy and get him to do it then.
The reason the originals worked as they did because of Reeve. They made the right decision, they didn’t cast some bodybuilder as Superman, they found a great actor and bulked him up. Without Reeve (or someone like him), those movies would have failed. Can you imagine they talked about Warren Beatty? Can you imagine that version?
Welling worked fine for a sort of shitty show on WB, where his lack of chops and charisma weren’t a huge problem. He was fine for high school Clark…SuperBOY. The movies need SuperMAN. No comparison with Evans, who
is actually a good actor with real charisma.
Rights issue or no, Welling would have NEVER been cast asSuperman in a huge budget film. He’s not a movie star. Like David Caruso and Shelley Long, he’d better look for the next tv show cause it ain’t going to be movies for him.
“So you’re basically saying that you’ve figured out that based on a pic you saw that a Superman movie won’t work?”
Jesus Christ Nero, he was pointing out the challenges the character and the movie are facing in the cultural zeitgeist right now. As a matter of fact, in the paragraph you pulled for the quote, he isn’t even talking about the photograph, he’s talking about the approach to the material. I get that your horse is hooked on stilts, but why don’t you holster the damned riding crop for two seconds and engage him on his actual thought?
And no one needs to bring up Snyder’s supposed downward box office slide, like that has anything to do with Superman. Since 300 Snyder’s been making weirder and weirder movies, who expects them to do BETTER? Watchmen made exactly what it ever would have, if not better. There’s a ceiling on that shit, and anyone who was predicting some 250 mil box office was smoking the reefer.
It’s like being shocked SHOCKED that Drag Me To Hell made less than the Spiderman movies.
Save the 3rd rate jockey analogies Hallick…
I know what he was saying. And I know how I responded.
The only “challenge” for them is to try and release any kind of promo material without clowns like you and Don R harping in with straight negativity without any real substance to back it up.
You’re entitled to your opinion. Both negative and positive….but you guys sound if anything like youre trying to convince us that the movie is going to bomb. It almost seems like thats what you want.
Do you have anything positive to say other than….
THIS WILL FAIL! I KNOW IT. SNYDER SUCKS!
Why does Superman have scales, is he actually Aquaman?
Nero, your anger isn’t really in the aw-shucks spirit of Superman.
If you go back and read the comments on the picture in this post – lo and behold – there’s a variety of opinions, not just I HATE, I HATE, I HATE, I HATE! JSP was disgusted by the suit, I made fun of the weird picture, Lex approved but with reservations about Adams, Madam Prince waxed nostalgic for a younger Cavill, yancyskancy thinks its fine except for the hair, Madam Prince came back again and approved the suit change, Pete B expressed excitement, Jason was the voice of reason and said you can’t tell what the movie’s going to be from a single still photo, etc. But in Nero’s eyes we all went Whack-a-Mole on the whole movie from A to Z.
@ Hallick I didn’t say everybody.
No need to do blog roll call.
“Save the 3rd rate jockey analogies Hallick…”
Damn – there goes my “short man syndrome” joke. And it was a “high horse” analogy. Then again, race horses on stilts…that’s a hell of an image…
“I know what he was saying. And I know how I responded.”
You responded “So you’re basically saying that you’ve figured out that based on a pic you saw that a Superman movie won’t work?”, so you sounded like you didn’t know what he was saying, Nero.
“The only ‘challenge’ for them is to try and release any kind of promo material without clowns like you and Don R harping in with straight negativity without any real substance to back it up.”
I don’t know about anybody else, but the picture was the substance of my posts, period. Quote me where I go out on a crazy limb and say the movie’s going to tank, that Cavill’s going to suck as Superman, that Snyder can’t direct this movie right, etc. I deal with things as they come, which differs from your approach where because it has the best casting ever the movie MUST be great already; and because the screenwriters are Goyer and Nolan, the storytelling is idiot-proof and Snyder can’t possibly fuck it up.
“Do you have anything positive to say other than….
THIS WILL FAIL! I KNOW IT. SNYDER SUCKS!”
Positive #1: I like that you’re using the Italian for “black angel” instead of just “black angel”. I’m on a Roman kick since I’ve been watching this “Zen” series on PBS.
Not angry in the slightest LexG.
“@ Hallick I didn’t say everybody.
No need to do blog roll call.”
When you write about a Hater Generation and a Haternet, it’s virtually an all-inclusive rant, no?
Nero – Walker/Petersen. Superman/Batman crossover. Pre-Begins.
If I had Robinov’s gig…Once Man of Steel and Rises head into post, I’d give Walker’s script to Goyer and Nolan, (even though Walker’s a better writer), and start the countdown. If Man of Steel hit, I’d give it to Snyder. If Marvel and Sony can announce a freakin Spidey sequel for a reboot that nobody is wild about, WB can roll onto World’s Finest as a precursor for Justice League.
And if Bale, bailed, it could allow for a unique spin where Kent/Superman is the central character and we only encounter Batman. No omniscient following of Wayne. This way, the only time we see Wayne would be if/when Kent encounters him. It could also be a nice reversal where we don’t actually see Wayne until maybe late second or third act.
Hey Lex – which of your Twilight girls ends up as Wonder Woman? Ashley Greene or Nikki Reed?
Or do they just hand it to Olivia Wilde because she’s apparently been ordained to be in everything for the next two years.
@ Martin
Is that a comic book you’re talking about?
just a thought, but has princ. photography even started on supey yet? (for some reason the end of august is stuck in my head but i might be hallucinating) that photo strikes me as a dorky posed promo shot rather than a still from actual production, he’s looking right down the barrel all miffed like ‘how many times have i told you to USE THE ATM dumb fucker!’
the coating in my new teflon frypan looks just like his suit. and really, pleats are for catholic school girl uniform skirts, i’m pretty sure badasses don’t wear pleats. but that’s just me.
“Or do they just hand it to Olivia Wilde because she’s apparently been ordained to be in everything for the next two years.”
Not Amazonian enough. You need somebody hot, with man hands.
I don’t know if she has man hands, but a younger Monica Bellucci would have been perfect.
Nic Cage’s hairpiece in Ghost Rider 2 is his best in years.
“my new teflon frypan looks just like his suit. and really, pleats are for catholic school girl uniform skirts, i’m pretty sure badasses don’t wear pleats. but that’s just me.”
I like the pleated cape design on the suit. I thought it was quite a good choice (Ha! Positive statement numero due, Nero!)
“Nic Cage’s hairpiece in Ghost Rider 2 is his best in years.”
It doesn’t really have competition to speak of, does it? But yeah, if its the one in the pic on IMDb, that’s just about perfect.
pleats are for sissies hallick (GATHERING is where it’s at). but fried eggs will NOT stick to his suit.
(eta ‘gathering’, i couldn’t think of the right word)
“pleats are for sissies hallick”
Sissies can teach the world a thing or two about cape construction then, I’ll give them that.
“(but fried eggs will NOT stick to his suit)”
Put that together with his infra-red heat vision and the man’s a walking food truck.
On my charisma-o-meter, I put Welling ahead of Evans, which is pretty darn high, since I love Evans. Martin nailed it about Evans giving his Welling Clark Kent impression, to good and lauded effect. But don’t ask me to chose between them. That is the Sophie’s choice of burning hot, charismatic men. Can’t be done. Give me them both.
Perm –
Reeve worked? How about this? Reeve’s performance has been romanticized to death. He has maybe two or three good scenes in the first one and several in the second. Donner’s movie are sentimentalized to a Knowlesian level of delusion. And it’s not like he wasn’t in three or four.
I like how you’re still applying the TV/film acting ceiling – when it doesn’t fucking exist anymore. Sean Bean is one of the best around – he’s on cable. Walton Goggins is FX – he’s now working with Spielberg.
What about Olivia Wilde? TV credits galore. Has co-starred the past two opening weekends. Fucking James Franco did soap episodes after starring in Spider-Man…and he’s now going to win the weekend.
It’s about what the production calls for. Yeah, I wouldn’t cast Welling as Hamlet. But he just played Kent – for ten years. It would actually be hard for him to play the role in a reboot that wasn’t connected to Smallville because of how much he would have to discard.
I’d say the problem is actually with you, Perm. You look at a person’s body of work and typecast it instantly. Hell, Evans started off on some crappy WB/CW type show. Perm the Casting Agent would reject him instantly just for having such tripe on his resume.
You’ve got nothing, Perm. Good god, you’ve admitted you didn’t even watch Smallville.
Touche Hallick (Cape)
I like the cape. If we had no problem with the fact that Batman couldn’t even look over his shoulder in Batman Begins due to poor costume design,(Batman Begins was great) we’ll be fine with “teflon” Superman.
“S” is back to the size it should be.
Superman doesnt owe about 6 years back child support like in “Superman Returns.”
He’s not fighting against bank robbers and High school football coaches (with mutated krytonite based powers) like in Smallville and Lois and Clark.
The only thing in filmed Superman lore it has to compete with are the first 2 Donner movies.
It’ll be fine,
Madam – thank you very much.
Leah – They started Superman a few weeks ago in Illinois, (or Indiana). Some set pics are floating about.
Nero – Superman/Batman was in development alongside Batman: Year One. Luthor and Joker were the villains. Petersen was attached to direct. I can’t remember who was up for the roles. WB had to make a decision and they went with Year One, which eventually became Begins.
…and they ended Smallville with Darkseid, Zod and even a shot of the formation of the Legion of Doom.
On the subject of charisma, something that has bemused me for a long time, is the tendency of many people to subconsciously equate funny with charismatic. I think what many people mean when they say so-and-so is charismatic and so-and-so isn’t, it that first guy could be a stand up comedian, and second guy doesn’t roll that way. I think most people would agree Russell Crowe was very charismatic. But, he isn’t a funny guy and doesn’t do a lot of comedies. On the other hand, before this year, lots of articles and people were saying Ryan Reynolds was the most charismatic guy in Hollywood. I suspect what they meant was that Ryan could pull off a stand up routine in every interview and starred in lots of comedies and rom-coms. But has “charisma” really just become another synonym for “funny”? To a lot of people, I think so. Tells funny stories in interviews = charismatic. Answers interview questions seriously = not charismatic. That’s the logic some people have. If you aren’t being a stand up comedian, you aren’t being charismatic.
“But has ‘charisma’ really just become another synonym for ‘funny’? To a lot of people, I think so. Tells funny stories in interviews = charismatic. Answers interview questions seriously = not charismatic. That’s the logic some people have. If you aren’t being a stand up comedian, you aren’t being charismatic.”
Being funny is one aspect of charisma, but if you look away from Hollywood at politics, especially campaign coverage, the “charisma” tag gets applied to lots of people who aren’t necessarily stand up comedians at the podium.
What bemuses me is the fact that the word “charismatic” is pretty much a single gender adjective. I honestly cannot think of an instance where I’ve heard someone referring to a woman as charismatic. Sexy, alluring, seductive, fascinating, yes, yes, yes, yes, but never charismatic. It’s the oddest omission.
I’ve seen a few episodes of Smallville, Martin, but the show was too lame for me to watch more.
And sorry bud, but I never said ANY tv actor would have to stay on tv because they were on tv. But I think some actors just work better for tv and don’t have real charisma for leading roles in films. And yeah, there are plenty of people in films who aren’t very good either. But like, could you have imagined Indiana Jones with Tom Selleck? But you know, Walton Goggins is good, he could be a great guy for movies. Bean is good. Welling isn’t any Bean or Goggins.
And you really don’t think Reeve did a good job at Superman? Well, then you have bad taste. And I didn’t say I loved the movies either, they’re decent but I wouldn’t want to watch them a bunch of times. But hey, keep trying to look deep into what I write.
Well, let’s see where Tom Welling’s career goes now that he’s off the show. I bet I know.
I don’t think Ryan Reynolds is very charismatic. He’s kind of a bore.
Sean Bean is a classic example of somebody who’s been awesome and commanding like a movie star on TV (Sharpe, Game of Thrones) but just, for whatever reason, doesn’t really translate to the big screen and I can’t figure why.
Yep, as awesome as Bean is, he will still be a tv lead or supporting actor in movies. I don’t know why either, there’s just something not quite there. Of course it could be just that right role that he’d never gotten.
I thought Sean Bean translated darn awesomely in LOTR. Has he had any other movie role that wasn’t abysmally written? Maybe we can better say Sean Bean makes poor movie script choices?
And of course Ryan Reynolds can’t be very charismatic. He has been tainted by starring in a TV show! Boo! Hiss! Slink back to the dirty world of well paying TV stardom, loser!
Meanwhile, Tom Welling continues to be Teh Hotness. Yessss. Toying with women’s hearts and other parts. It’s that combo of Shy Guy and Bad Boy all wrapped up into one being. Seldom does that get credibly pulled off. Chris Evans is more pure Bad Boy, which made his turn as Cap extra tasty. Of course he too has been tainted by the evil clutches of TV. But nobody is perfect!
I still think if only one actor could get an Oscar nod for LOTR, it should’ve been Bean instead of McKellen.
In seriousness, I do feel sorry for Ryan Reynolds today. It is amazing and scary how one weekend can make you or break you.
Speaking of Ryan Reyolds, add Nathan Fillion to the list of “great… for tv” actors for me. Like the guy, enjoy the performances, but the idea of him heading up a big screen movie is still alien to me despite the run on Castle breaking his Ted McGinley curse.
“Speaking of Ryan Reyolds, add Nathan Fillion to the list of ‘great… for tv’ actors for me. Like the guy, enjoy the performances, but the idea of him heading up a big screen movie is still alien to me despite the run on Castle breaking his Ted McGinley curse.”
I thought he’d make a perfect replacement for Harrison Ford in the Indiana Jones franchise after his performance in “Serenity”. He would have been a better lead in “The Mummy” series too. I can’t stand him on “Castle” though.
“And of course Ryan Reynolds can’t be very charismatic. He has been tainted by starring in a TV show! Boo! Hiss! Slink back to the dirty world of well paying TV stardom, loser!”
Reynolds has done so many movies now, I don’t think very many people even remember that he did television first. Not first and foremost for sure.
Back in the day, I was a big proponent of Reynolds for Anakin Skywalker… would have changed his trajectory a lot. (He was also less buff back then.) And the comedy side would have been accelerant to what would have been supposed to be a dramatic career.
He could have been Kilmer… and wouldn’t age as badly.
As long as our tiny violins are out for Reynolds, play a few bars for this from today’s Philadelphia Inquirer: “Ryan Reynolds, 34, and Charlize Theron, 36 on Sunday, broke up in late July after only two months of dating, reports Us Weekly. He wanted a summer fling, she wanted to settle down. Reynolds is hot off a divorce from Scarlett Johansson, who reportedly was the one to end the two-year marriage in December.”
1. Really? US Weekly on the moods of celeb relationships?
2. Charlize’s clock is ticking.
3. Charlize is no dummy. She didn’t seek out Ryan Reynolds with an eye to a serious future with him.
4. Don’t cry for the boy’s schwantz. I’m sure it’s be comforted as we speak.
I wonder if Theron’s the first African-American woman Lex ever found doable…
Ba-DUM-Bum!
So is the suit covered with bubble-wrap to ensure the Man of Steel arrives at his destination without getting bruised?
And why so dingy? Did someone spill some bleach into the load?
I am a fan of both Hallick’s and SamLowry’s most recent comments. Is there an app for that?