Trailer: Wait For It…. MIB3
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Wow. Josh Brolin takes on yet another iconic Texan, dead on. The most encouraging element of the whole trailer is him… for me.
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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?
So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.
And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.
There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.
I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.
So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.
But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”
My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher
“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.
~ David Simon
Gotta say, the only thing I really wanna see out of this movie is Brolin’s Tommy Lee Jones impression.
Seconded. MiB II is literally one of the worst films I’ve ever seen in a theater. I walked out. So dreadful. Such an obvious money play from all the participants. No one wanted a MiB III, no one is really thrilled for MiB III. But you never know. Perhaps there’s some other tricks up its sleave.
Jemaine from Flight of the Conchords and Michael Stuhlbarg are in it. I guess that also leaves us some hope.
Could be worse. At least they didn’t try to just CGI Jones young a la Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy.
fwiw my boy is thrilled for MiBIII (i don’t think he’s seen MiBII that i know of, i don’t have it), he’s grown up with will smith and totally digs him, knowing nothing of his early fresh prince/dizzy dj jeff or whatever that other guy’s name rap/tv days, his perspective of smith consists solely of smith in MiB (one of his fave dvds as a nipper), hancock, i am legend (another of his fave movies), i robot, and just recently ‘ali’, which was weird because he really had no idea who ali the real person was so i had to ‘splain all that after the fact.
the ol’ go-back-in-time retro reimagining reboot trick eh
oh also, how weird is it that i immediately recognised emma thompson’s hair from the back
“dizzy dj jeff or whatever that other guy’s name rap/tv days”
BLASPHEMY!
DJ JAZZY JEFF!
ETA: It’s amusing that Will Smith made “Ali” given that one of the songs that fueled his rise was “I Think I Can Beat Mike Tyson”
clearly i’m dyslexic
This trailer alone is better than the entirety of MIIB.
I guess I’m in the very minority who liked MIIB. It was kind of like a condom, use, enjoy, then throw away. Still enjoyed.
I’m supposed to be psyched, why?
i like the camerawork on this .. looks nice .
want Will Smith to make Hancock 2 with Theron… DP you know her ..make it happen.
“movieman says: December 12, 2011 at 2:52 pm
I’m supposed to be psyched, why?”
Because it’s Will Smith. Doing Stuff ™. With Tommy Lee Jones. Also Doing Stuff ™. And Josh Brolin. Pretending to be Tommy Lee Jones Doing Stuff ™.
What stuff are they doing? It appears the MIB (and Sony) don’t want you to know that…
Leah: Don’t worry, I sold my soul to Santa.
ETA – Yeah, Matthew (below), Brolin’s lips don’t appear to be in sync with what he’s saying. Might just be a trailer thing?
Sounds like they dubbed him, honestly. Although that might just be a credit to his craft, or whatever.
Sounded like Brolin (doing W) to me.
And, honestly, he’s the only reason I won’t be gritting my teeth when this opens next summer. (And maybe Emma Thompson.)
The best thing about the first two “MIB”s was that they were short (98 and 88 minutes respectively) and relatively unpretentious as far as tentpole movies go. Otherwise, both were pretty much of a shrug for me.
MAD MEN IN BLACK
Pass.
the second was shit. This looks like crap too. It’s gonna get swallowed up next summer. I think it will be that rare Will Smith flop, which is funny when you think about it because practically all of his movies suck.
The only redeeming aspects of the second was the off-kilter performance by Jones and the cameo by Biz Markie. Now that it looks like Jones is mostly sitting this one out, there is not a real strong case to give it a try, especially if Brolin is dubbed. What happened to Sonnenfeld? For a bit he looked like he could inherit Zemeckis’s antic special effect comedy crown and then wham, right off a cliff. Does having a giant failed project like Wild Wild West really kill the confidence in such a way you can never regain your bearings?
Just watched the new Battleship trailer over at IMBD and while it still isn’t a grabber it is miles improved over the first. Though the tagline, “From the toy company that brought you Transformers.” reeks of desperation.
Yeah the toy company line had me laughing my ass off. Battleship still looks ridiculous, but this trailer is definitely much better than the first one. Some good scenes of chaos and destruction, and I had no idea Landry is in it, so that was a nice surprise.
The best trailer from yesterday is GI JOE: Retaliation. Good lord, does that look like leaps and bounds over the original, and it even has Cobra Commander in his gorgeous chrome dome. Everything about it screams, “FUN SUMMER ACTION MOVIE”, and that’s something to look forward to once it becomes warm again.
MIB looks better… The first GI JOE movie was terrific, but it was enough; I liked the new trailer and I like The Rock’s new MO of joining franchises mid-stream, but it HONESTLY didn’t look leaps and bounds better or different than the first movie. Sometimes geeks must have this finely calibrated GEEK VISION where they can tell GI JOE 2 is more faithful to their nerdy material than GI JOE 1, or GREEN LANTERN is wack but CAPTAIN AMERICA is cool, JOHN CARTER is problematic but THOR has integrity…
I honestly never see any distinction between any of them… it all looks like the same old bullshit to me.
Geek vision – what some people refer to as a combination of eyes and a memory that holds more than images pubescent feet.
Lex, for me, who did not play with GI Joes as a kid and doesn’t know shit about whatever stupid mythology this may or may not be adapting, GI Joe 2 looks significantly cooler than the first one because it looks a little cleaner and less chintzy and more enjoyably silly (which is pretty much The Rock defined: enjoyably silly, versus the dullness of more meatheady Channing Tatum) (that said, Magic Mike will probably rule). The first one had that weird Stephen Sommers digital haze where every scene looks slathered in processing and cartoonifying, even if the scene in question doesn’t even look like it required a ton of CG. There’s like a murky green cartoon smoke around everything in that movie. Van Helsing has that same aesthetic, but at least it has a kind of gaudy Euro-monster trashiness (and Kate Beckinsale) that I find kind of stupidly fun.
I did like Sienna Miller in the first one. She was pretty rad… and completely defanged as a character by the end of the movie.
So while Men in Black III is probably a better bet based on Sonnenfeld actually being a pretty cool director (he has more underrated movies than overrated ones (example: Big Trouble) and Jones and Smith being pros, I’m actually pretty excited to see the director of STEP UP 2 THE STREETS (totally the best of the three!!) make a stupid GI Joe movie.
Also, KIND OF FAIR point, about Thor anyway. Captain America versus Green Lantern, hey, I don’t know the comics of each, but I know Green Lantern was kind of tedious and less fun than it should have been, and Captain America was way snappier. But Thor got a LOT of geek love that kind of mystified me. Saying that X-Men: First Class is a cut (or three) above other superhero movies, absolutely, I get that. But Thor?! I mean, it was OK. It was a bit better than it needed to be. But strictly second-tier as far as superhero movies go.
I never bothered with GI Joe. Not much of a Sommers fan and it didn’t look like something worth making time for. GI Joe 2 looks like decent dumb fun. Anyone else watch the Rock of Ages trailer yet? Looks like it could be bad in an epic fashion. Cruise does not look at all right for that part and Baldwin’s wig is hilariously awful.
Aside from the nice beat with the Cobra banners unfurling on the White House, the new Joe doesn’t fill me with much more hope than the first movie. Always happy to see Willis onscreen but instead of flashing back to Die Hard or Boy Scout his line only made me think of his cameo in the Player delivering his spot-on movie wisecrack.
Did Paramount not realize that they were making two tentpoles with nearly identical plots within 8 months of each other?
Only thing I noticed different other than THE ROCK (who rules) is now there’s like 6 million Asian guys ’cause the director’s Asian… and I’m informed there won’t be any more HIGHLY BELIEVABLE chemistry between Marlon Wayans and Tits McFirecrotch Nichols.
Holy SHIT, Rock of Ages looks terrible. I had no idea it was one of these Jukebox musicals, dear lord. How is it set in 87 and featuring songs from Foriegner and Night Ranger when those acts had completely disappeared by then. And to have the ‘Music of a Generation’ be represented by We Built this City and We’re Not Going to Take It?! As a kid that grew up on Metal I am really quite insulted.
And this played on BROADWAY? The theater community must be thanking their stars for Book of Morman if this is the Glee level of crap that gets booked. I don’t follow theater like I do films but is this what routinely plays and people travel and drop real money to see?
Yeah that song fight between the uptight trophy wives and the young rockers is so bad it’s awesome, just like most of the rest of the trailer.
The Rock’s career is interesting. Never would have expected him to suddenly latch onto a bunch of sequels, but it seems to be working for him.
Yeah, but to be fair, real “metal” or non-kitsch rock acts (like GNR, Van Halen or even the still-gigging Crue) aren’t gonna play along with some camp Broadway musical, and “the masses” really only know the poppish stuff that made radio top 40. It’s not like an ADAM SCHANKMAN MUSICAL is gonna have songs by King Diamond, Danzig and Mike Muir prominently featured, and even most of “our” Gen X peers from the late ’80s-early ’90 didn’t listen to the “real” metal.
Though it does kind of remind of ROCK STAR (the Wahlberg movie), where writer John Stockwell did his research by touring with METAL GODS Pantera, drinking and raising hell with Anselmo and Vinnie and Dime… then the movie comes out and once it goes through the GENERICKING process, it’s about some lightweight hair metal band that’s a zillion miles from the guys he studied.
I remember being in 5th grade, and like one half the school all had that Michael Jackson THRILLER tape, and the other half had METAL HEALTH. Then within a few months, it was all about Van Halen’s 1984, with a few of the future alterna-chicks having cassettes of SYNCHRONICITY. But just the fact that Quiet Riot was in there, and to a lesser degree Twisted Sister– that stuff WAS really big for “our” generation, and the heavier stuff that came later was a lot more niche. And again, it has to be shit that they can GLEE up into big campy blowsy pop numbers. Chicks and gay guys don’t really go in for Sepultura or whatever “real metal” would’ve been by 1987.
There goes my dream of seeing Napalm Death in Rock of Ages. Didn’t some deranged fan shoot and kill a member of Pantera during a live show? Am I remembering that correctly? I loved them when I was in high school. We had a huge lawn and I’d rock out to Pantera and Megadeth and the Crue while using the riding lawnmower.
Yep, an unstable asshole fan killed guitarist Dimebag Darrell on stage while he was performing with his post-Pantera band Damageplan, then got blown away by the police. I am an absolutely HUGE Pantera fan, and Phil Anselmo is one of my personal idols, and to this day I’m sad that it all ended that way and miss Darrell and the band… Their BEHIND THE MUSIC is pretty epic, but it does contain a classic WTF moment where Scott Ian of Anthrax said no tragedy in the *history of rock* compared to that… except “maybe Lennon.”
Sure its stuff they need to be able to fit into a show, and no King Diamond would not fit the bill. But Tesla, Bon Jovi, 80’s Aerosmith, Poison (who I did see was included), White Snake, Crue. All active in that period all with top 40 hits, and all had songs that would lend themselves to the marterial (Little Suzie would be perfect for a showbiz musical). The PMRC never got in a tizzy over Foreigner and Journey, if your going to make a musical solely based on the songs you have access to, make it in the period of the songs you have access to. But it strikes me as wrong to make a hair metal musical without much hair metal.
And the inclusion of We Built this City still irks me remarkably. It was perhaps the most Yuppie single of the entire decade.
Now I know this is getting ridiculously wound up over a trailer, and I think it is mostly that I don’t feel old enough to have things from my teen years tossed back at me for nostalgia’s sake. It just makes me picture Kirk Cameron and Debbie Gibson at the All In the Family piano- Oh, the late eighties, wasn’t that a time.
And as well, that this was a Broadway show. Is this the cycle of popular music now, Radio then commericals and county fair appearances then muzak and THEN Broadway. And people complain that movies are creativly bankrupt.
Heh, that’s kind of what I was riffing/ranting about in that Refn thread– that MY formative years are now the formative years of everybody making movies, telling stories, and I feel so left out.
Like in YOUNG ADULT, Charlize driving around listening to 4 Non Blondes, or Patton cranking the Suicidal Tendencies anthem, or DRIVE being this movie-long shoutout to ’80s Mann and Friedkin…
For years I’ve said I was sick of Boomer directors endlessly going back to the Nixon-Watergate-Woodstock era for material that was just before my time that had been done to death, all the disco movies and early ’80s… Now it’s looking more and more like we’re really gonna get all these movies about the late ’80s and early ’90s dead zone era I’ve been clamoring for, and it’s just… odd, I feel somehow left out. But hair metal is now as old as the early Beatles records were in 1987.
As for the Rock and his career, I am amazed he did not become bigger. I was skeptical at first because of my distaste for Pro Wrestling but the Rundown compeletly sold me on his abilities. After he followed that up with a fun turn in Walking Tall and I thought he was magnificent in Be Cool (though the rest of the movie was terrible). The guy is good looking, built and has charisma. How can they not find an original A-list project for him.
I have the same level of confoundment over Idris Elba. The guy is as good looking, smoldering and charming as Clooney but no one seems to be willing to throw him a lead role in a decent picture. Just to throw it out there, He’d make an inspired choice for Bond if Craig decides to toss in the towel after Skyfall.
…..or maybe its time for a black Batman?
Jesus H Idris Elba is as cool as they come. Oozes charisma from every pore. His performance as John Luther is beyond mesmerizing. I’m pretty sure it’s only an average show, but I don’t really notice because he is so damn captivating and fascinating and awesome.
And I’m with you on The Rock. The Rundown is great fun and he’s got charisma to spare. I want to see Faster though I hear it’s mediocre. Seems like a good role for him.
Paul, Faster is a surprisingly a good movie. Seriously, it shocked the hell out me, but it’s worth checking out.
That aside, Rock of Ages captures the musicals feel, and that sold me right there. It’s a HAIR METAL musical but I am still confounded by there not being enough real metal in movies. Seriously, where is the inspired director that can use Slayer as the soundtrack to a bad ass action scene?
Also, Lex, it’s not geek vision it’s called having knowledge about these things. You spend a good portion of your pop culture life being a comic fan and discussing these properties. You know when they pass the smell test for you or not. Somehow, you missed out on being a geek, and do not get how Thor is clearly superior in every way to that Green Lantern movie, which isn’t horrible, but in no damn way captured that character. Seriously, it’s not that hard to figure out but you love Carpenter movies. Not my guy, so it’s not like I have CARPENTER VISION or something.
I dug the guy on The Wire and think he’s pretty cool and all, but something about Elba as a leading man– I don’t get where this fan meme is coming from. Probably from people who didn’t see “Obsessed.” He seems too tall, or 20 years older than his actual age, to have that New Leading Man efficient-eternal-youth thing, where all the male leads seem forever 21 years old and super thin-but-buff. And that’s not even a slam against Elba, but he doesn’t have that short, coiled-intensity LITTLE GUY thing that oddly seems to be who gets cast these days in action movies.
Elba looks to me like he’s about 6’11 and 275 pounds, when they generally now go for dudes pitched at about Jeremy Renner’s size and build.
I certainly don’t think he seems Bondian though– I know he’s British, but he’s kind of just the British version of Carl Lumbly. Can you see Carl Lumbly as 007?
Well, you gotta remember there’s two Broadways. There’s the real one, which features extraordinary actors and outstanding plays and musicals, and Tourist Broadway, which offers big, splashy, pop (mostly jukebox and/or Disney), family musicals designed for out-of-towners who think they’re seeing “a Broadway show.” I wouldn’t go to ROCK OF AGES (on Broadway) for free, and neither would anyone else I know, and I’m fairly certain I won’t see the film, either. So there.
Wait just a second. Are you saying ROCK OF AGES isnt a real Broadway show? Next youll be telling me Spiderman: Turn Off the Dark isnt a real show either…..
I just watched the Rock of Ages trailer. Catherine Zeta Jones is such a terrible actress. She has the dead, soulless eyes a Zemeckis CG character.
Yeah she looks like my mom, a lot, so I am going to disagree with you on that one.
After reading so much about what a disaster it was I was shocked when I saw the cast of Spiderman perform at the Macy’s parade. I can’t believe thats what they came up with on that budget. It looked like a Sid and Marty Kroft production.
And Lex, comparing Elba to Lumbly is like comparing Craig to Jim Broadbent.
I was as shocked as anyone to read that B’way’s “Spiderman” is actually considered a bona fide hit.
Go figure.
People have been lining up to see PHANTOM for 23 years now. I just want to scream “MORONS!” at them every time I see the line (from the less-crowded other side of the street). So it’s hardly surprising that they’d be wetting themselves over watching guys on wires floating above them. Like I said–it’s Tourist Broadway.
I had forgotten there was a third MIB coming out. Can’t work up much enthusiasm since I dislike Will Smith.
Perhaps it means that I have prematurely ageing tastes but I have found all the trailers for next summer’s tentpoles underwhelming while at the same time each TV spot for The Grey has me licking my lips and twitching my hands like a rummie watching a bartender pour a double Johnie Walker into a heavy glass.
Hcat, that’s always my deal too… All the SUMMER TENTPOLES to me seem like Obligation Viewing, too big and generic and four-quadrant, plus I know they’re all gonna be 2.5 hours that I’ll have to sit in a packed theater with kids kicking my seat…
But Denzel in SAFE HOUSE, Wahlberg vs Ribisi in CONTRABAND, UNDERWORLD 4, THE GREY, that’s the kind of stuff I like in a movie– down-and-dirty minimal-investment star vehicle potboiler-timekillers straight out of 1997. My favorite type of movie.
I get pumped every time I see THE GREY trailer in the theaters. I’m also pretty excited about CONTRABAND and SAFE HOUSE. There are always a few summer releases I’m psyched for, but for the most part, I’m right with you, in that Winter/Fall/Spring always hold more stuff I’m excited for these days.
They went with time travel, a sure sign they were completely out of ideas.
GI Joe 2 looks surprising good…and it’s written by the Zombieland guys. And judging from the change of personnel (new director, new big actors) I’m guessing this is a sequel as much as a reboot.