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Klady's Friday Estimates

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  1. mutinyco says:

    Hot story of the week! Pan’s Labyrinth catches up to Dreamgirls!

  2. mutinyco says:

    Dig the hourglass symbolism too.

  3. Chicago48 says:

    Mutinyco: Don’t get your hopes up so high…that’s a mistake…yesterday Pan’s was at $18Mil…

  4. mutinyco says:

    As R.P. says: Explanation is always the death of the joke.

  5. marychan says:

    Good for Eduardo Rodriguez, and bad for Pang Brothers….
    After Pang Brothers finished shooting “The Messengers”, Sam Raimi hired Eduardo Rodriguez to reshoot the movie. Afterward, Sam Raimi was was extremely happy with what Eduardo Rodriguez did.
    Box office result of “The Messengers” is good for Eduardo Rodriguez, who career was almost killed by the Weinsteins. On the other hand, it may be a “Bitter irony” for Pang Brothers.

  6. marychan says:

    Here is what EDouglas said in other place
    http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/02/weekend_numbers_6.php
    [Rodriguez didn’t reshoot the entire movie. They had to reshoot a few scenes towards the end of the movie… but you can tell what part of the movie is the Pang Brothers and they’re the only ones with credit in the movie or anywhere else so it won’t do anything for Rodriguez’s career.]

  7. EthanG says:

    Depressing that for the second straight week, two films with terrible reviews are top 2…a little bit pleased that this helps Mandy Moore rebound from bad box office performances. (liked Saved! and American Dreamz)
    Great news for Pan’s Labyrinth…it’s on pace this weekend to top La Cage aux Folles, Like Water for Chocolate, and Il Postino for 6th all-time on the list of foreign language films. (not counting Mel Gibson’s two movies which are U.S. produced)

  8. jeffmcm says:

    It certainly means that for his next bad horror production, Raimi will hire Rodriguez and not the Pangs.

  9. EDouglas says:

    I wish Raimi would just give all that Spider-Man money to me rather than wasting it making bad movies that no one likes.

  10. Bruno Packer says:

    EDouglas,
    If no one likes these movies, why these horror movies helped Sony to get 1st in last year’s studio marketshare? Anyone?
    Ponder a little bit before you speak up.

  11. jeffmcm says:

    The movies can be bad and popular at the same time. And Ghost House only had one release last year (The Grudge 2). Take it away and Sony still would have had the biggest marketshare.
    It’s a shame that, given his sudden clout, that Raimi has decided to make so much crud instead of really invigorating the American horror scene, which is in dire need of fresh material.

  12. Chucky in Jersey says:

    Trashy horror flicks are always worth going to in a dead period. Even the worst of them can be better than a franchise/remake/sequel/TV ripoff.
    EthanS: If “Saved!” flopped it wasn’t for Mandy Moore. MGM handled it as a mainstream movie in the Bible Belt and arthouse/upmarket elsewhere.

  13. marychan says:

    “Saved” didn’t flopped. It grossed nearly $9 million in limited release, which is respectfully for a movie that was only cost about $5 million to make.
    “The Grudge 2” did respectfully, but it grossed much less than what “The Grudge 2” grossed.

  14. Chicago48 says:

    A little off topic – has anyone seen the trailer for Across the University, dir by Julie Taymor. Looks fantastic.
    Maybe she should have directed DG?

  15. EDouglas says:

    “If no one likes these movies, why these horror movies helped Sony to get 1st in last year’s studio marketshare? Anyone?”
    like jeff said, I really don’t think that Grudge 2 (Raimi’s only ’06 production) had much to do with it. Its $42 million worldwide gross was only a little more than the first movie made opening weekend. Sony’s other horror movie, When a Stranger Call, was profitable but that had nothing to do with Raimi.
    Sony’s success last year had more to do with the volume of movies than it did about individual successes.

  16. Jimmy the Gent says:

    The trailer for Across the Universe is amazing. I’ve watched it four times already. I want to see it immediately. Just going by my initial impression, I would think the movie has the major possibility of breaking out. Could it be next Moulin Rouge? Does anyone know when it’s being released? I figured if the trailer is hitting it must be soon.
    This could be really good Spring season. Both Breach and Black Snake Moan guarantee February will be interesting. I feel Shooter and Disturbia look like good B movies. The same goes for The Lookout. And then you have Grindhouse.

  17. EDouglas says:

    I gotta say that I liked Disturbia a lot more than I thought I would… it’s a great role for Shia Lebouf, a well-made thriller with Dave Morse as the bad guy… great stuff. (Wasn’t so crazy about Black Snake Moan.)

  18. Joe Leydon says:

    Looks like it won’t be as much fun as Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. But perhaps more accessible than All This and World War II.

  19. marychan says:

    “Grudge 2” worldwide gross is $64.8 million (Sony only released it in US and Canada, though)
    What about “Zodiac”? I has high hope on it solely because of David Fincher

  20. EthanG says:

    Factoring in marketing costs Saved! didnt show much if any profit. I actually think Mandy Moore is one of the few young actresses with real potential, (despite Chasing Liberty etc) as she has had the wisdom to renounce her early music albums as trite crap and apologize for putting them out.
    Hopefully this movie is a mere speedbump and she will rebound in the rebooted Southland Tales

  21. ployp says:

    ‘Across the Universe’ has the release date for Germany as April 19th, 2007. It’ll probably be in the US on the same day.
    Hollywood has already overdone the Asian Horror. They should start looking elsewhere.
    I’m sad for the Pang brothers. I didn’t like The Eye at all (and I don’t understand why it’s being remade. It won’t translate well for western audiences). Their ‘Bangkok Dangerous’ is much better. There’s already a remake, probably to be released this year, with Nicolas Cage. I wonder how that’ll turn out. I don’t have much faith in it though.

  22. I like Mandy Moore. She’s nice and lovely and nice and lovely. And lovely. DON’T FORGET LOVELY!!! I really quite liked Saved! and she was better than the rest of American Dreamz put together. She was funny on Scrubs too. “Have you noticed how she always says ‘That’s so funny’ but doesn’t actually laugh?” She just needs some better movies. I gotta say though, I love How to Deal. That movie is hilaaaarious. Every bad thing that could possibly go wrong in that girl’s life does. It’s a hoot!
    As I said in the other thread. Across the Universe looks amazing! Stunning. The second half of the trailer just makes it look like it could indeed live up to the lines in the trailer. “Hey Jude” is so well used at the end. It looks wonderful.

  23. EDouglas says:

    Wow, I just watched the trailer for Across the Universe and I was pretty blown away, too. Bummed, we have to wait 8 months to see it.

  24. martin says:

    Across the Universe looks like it’s on the border of genius and failure. Best of luck to it though.

  25. marychan says:

    To EthanG:
    Beside theatrical release, a movie can get more money in other area, such as DVD , TV, hotel, airline…. A theatrical release can help the move to get more money in other areas.
    Even both Variety and Hollywood Reporter stated “Saved” as a arthouse box office success.

  26. I see Across the Universe as being very much like Marie Antoinette. There will be purists screaming their heads off, while others marvel. But then, Taymor had the same reaction from people with Titus, a very underrated picture in my mind.

  27. Lota says:

    if it’s Marie Antoinette I might fall asleep then, yikes that was dullsville.
    Man the top few movies in that list are so dull. I can;t fathom how Museum is doing so well unless it is the promise of Gugino’s rack and something younger folk could go to at the same time (“something for the whole family!). It wasn;t funny.
    Dreamgirls and Pan’s are holding and I wonder how much they will increase interest with anticipation of oscars. But is that a type-mistake that they have identical numbers?

  28. James Leer says:

    Gugino’s rack may be critically acclaimed but it doesn’t often open movies.

  29. I’m usually a staunch defender of the popcorn movie. A lot of people don’t seem to realise that people just like going to the movies to have a good time.
    …but then even I draw a blank on Night at the Museum. It didn’t even have a plot until the last half hour. And it’s not even Ben Stiller doing his usual schtick.

  30. jeffmcm says:

    Sure it is, Stiller’s usual schtick is ‘guy who gets abused by everyone around him’. It was Patricia Arquette and Tea Leoni in Flirting with Disaster, it was DeNiro and the cat in Meet the Parents, and now it’s tiny Owen Wilson and a monkey in NatM. Not exactly progress, but it still means Stiller gets to sputter and pout all movie long.

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So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

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