Friday Numbers by Klady
What is there to say?
Fantastic IV II will slightly outperform the opening of Fantastic Four (high 50s/low60s… the original opened to $56.1) proving for the second time that Fox knows how to repeat an image over and over to the point of exhaustion and opening weekend success. Expect a third film and another new character as the hook. Maybe they’ll trot out ol’ Thor… who knows?
Ocean’s Drop is not shocking and won’t be quite as large when the dust settles. The benefit of its so-so response is Knocked Up, which remains the one buzzy film of the pre-July summer.
Everyone else is dropping in the 40s and 50s… not too happy out there for a fatigued marketplace. Every studio will tell you that they know this summer was too dense for its own good… but they didn’t move any of the movies out of harm’s way. There are no real disasters so far, but it hasn’t been pretty. Will that be enough to turn heads? Probably not.
Finally, this tastemaker of America continues to get lied about by Mr. Roth, but nothing I could say would be as definitive as a 72% second Friday drop for Hostel II. And unlike the other films, horror plays on Fridays, so expect the drop to remain in the high 60s or 70s. You can lead a nation to self-loathing, but apparently you can’t make them drink.
However, in less smart ass perspective, Hostel II is a narrow market movie and The Geek 8 remains the number… geek love = $8 million opening. That isn’t what most movies are after exclusively, but the number is also big enough that the geeks remains a key marketing demo that needs to be worked… and if you rely on them as your primary audience for a $20 million opening, you are a suicidal marketing exec on a plane.
-72% for Hostel 2.
22 million for Friday.
hilarious.
another example that the massively negative opinion online regarding FF and the massively positive opinion on Hostel 2 meant two things
jack and shit.
*22 million for Rise of the Silver Surfer, i should have typed.
Gloating can be obnoxious, but Dave, today, you’ve earned it.
Maybe all of Mr. Roth’s intellectualizing of his movies and career (Anyone hear his self-aggrandizing interview with Elvis Mitchell?) turned off the slasher crowd.
Or maybe the movie sucks and the genre is dead.
sucks for DOA: Dead or Alive. That movie’s a lot of mindless fun that shouldn’t have had to go up against FF.
DOA is, naturally, DOA.
I’m not sure why they didn’t just name the movie “Bomb”
LYT: It’s cheesy enough to be a health risk for the lactose intolerant, but…
http://movingpictureblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/lol-at-doa.html
BTW Dave: Now that you are Tastemaker for America, will you change your column mug so that you’re wearing an ascot?
And how soon will it be before we see this blurb for a movie:
“Tasty!” — David Poland, Movie City News
Ha!
Fantastic IV II will slightly outperform the opening of Fantastic Four
..So much for that Tomb Raider 2 possibility I was thinking of.
*Slaps forehead*
Nice to see FF4 2 making some cash.
Thought on H2-Roth could have kept it intact and gone for the NC-17, he choose to cut and go for R and make 9 million in the first week. Might as well been NC-17, then at least he’d have some artistic integrity….
I actually liked Hostel 2. The torture was a little much with Heather Matarazzo, but the story kept me interested and this seemed like a better movie than the first one. I fell asleep in FF2. boring.
“BTW Dave: Now that you are Tastemaker for America, will you change your column mug so that you’re wearing an ascot?”
Can we officially change Poland’s name to Anton Ego?
sucks for DOA: Dead or Alive. That movie’s a lot of mindless fun that shouldn’t have had to go up against FF.
I doubt it would’ve done much better on a different weekend, given that the Weinsteins basically dumped it. I’m thinking they were contractually obligated to give it a theatrical run (no matter how poorly publicized) and they would’ve sent it straight to video if that’d been an option.
DAVE
can we have links for where Eli is talking about you?
Jeffmcm you= douche
I love me some Don Murphy!
Good thing I posted in this thread for Don’s sake.
Jeff, you’re being insulted for saying “Ha!” I’d say that’s kind of amazing, don’t you? Maybe next you can merely type an elipsis and still get called a douche.
DOA is an odd thing. It was released in most other countries last year. Even if they were dumping it, surely they could have dumped it in, like, March or something when they could have made something, right?
Those Hostel numbers make me happy.
Now I’m off to go see Ocean’s 13.
Kamikaze don’t do it !
Oceans 13 is the laziest excuse for a film made yet. Soderberg should have his balls ripped from his sack and slapped across his face for 2 hours to even come close to the pain I endured watching this insultingly banal back-slapping cock-pack fiasco. I’ll go so far to say, that if you think Oceans 13 is entertaining in any shape or form, then just slice your fucking wrists and die as quickly as possible because you sure as hell are just wasting oxygen for the rest of us. You think Oceans 13 is fun, then you’re fucking dead inside. So put a gun in your mouth and finish the job.
So anyway is anyone else as amused as I was with Eli Roth’s plea on his myspace page (someone linked elsewhere) to rush out and see Hostel 2 before it disappeared. Oops too late. Not because a bigger hit will mean more money for Eli to play with next time or about his backend deals – it was about everyone in this land of the free being able to make hard R films in the future you see. Apparently begging you to go to see Hostel 2 will save gorenography as we know on planet earth. He’s like a saviour or something.
Geez, settle down. The first half was sort of blah and Clooney, Pitt and Damon were sleepwalking. But once it got into the heist it was fun. Gotta say that I wish Caan and Affleck would get more work. They were the best thing about the movie quite frankly.
BTW, has anyone else realised that The Simpsons Movie has been rated PG-13! Apparently for “irreverent humor throughout”. And that’s it. Nothing else. Yet something like Skinwalkers gets the same rating for “intense sequences of violence and action, some sexual material and language”
Am I the only one surprised my this?
SImpsons has to appeal to youngsters and their parents so I wouldn;t expect more severe rating than PG-13, and if Hostel pt ii can get “R” then how could SImpsons get worse, even for cartoon porn (Fritz the Cat it is Not).
Boam’s Doctor–so I am Dead Inside…so what about it?
Can;t a replicant simply enjoy the sight of George Clooney in nice duds without you humans foaming at the mouth about inconsequential shit like good acting, strong screenplay and Hitchcock-level direction?
Actually it was a lazy film, but not offensive and I enjoyed me some George. There was enough to please hetero females and homo males.
Not much for anyone else though.
Eli Roth’s Myspace is very useful, if not sad (begging is always sad). I can page through the comments to get the perfect list for who I Never want to Add as a Friend to my Myspace page. Yikes some scary people “love” Eli.
If ELi does a good job on Cell or does a MR James story (since his pals think he is so talented) then I will consider him.
I wonder if Nancy Drew will pick up now the chicks are out of public school.
I meant I was surprised The Simpsons wasn’t PG, not that it wasn’t R.
Also,
http://kamikazecamel.blogspot.com/2007/06/glenn-dissects-eli-roths-plea-to.html
Well, I did my part…I paid to see Hostel Part 2 for a second time. It’s a damn good movie.
To all the people trying to take the film and it’s ilk down…why do you care? Why waste your time analyzing Eli Roth’s blog about the film? Kinda psychotic to me.
I hate rom-coms but Im not going to try and bring down those films. Every one enjoys different things…embrace it (or just ignore it), don’t hate.
So someone named Mutilator is preaching against hate, while a doctor wants to castrate directors who ofend him. What a world.
put a gun in your mouth and finish the job.
Should that be before or after the wrist-slitting thing?
Jeez JBM, unlike most summer movies that pull a groin muscle trying to convince us they’re actually about something (when they’re not), Ocean’s Thirteen just runs with it. I’m assuming you saw the first couple so what were you expecting exactly? Bob le flambeur? Well that’s your own fault.
Besides, the bit with Casey Affleck in Mexico was very funny.
The rest was just harmless amusement. Forgettable for sure, but it’s summer for crapssake.
er…I meant “Jeez JBD”
And the cinematography in Ocean’s 13 was absolutely gorgeous.
An extra bonus for sure. You’d almost believe Vegas is beautiful.
DOA is directed by Corey Yuen? Now I’m actually interested. Leave it to that Weinstein marketing to overlook the one name that might bring in somebody other than drooling 14-year-olds.
DOA is absolutely hilarious. If you know what you’re getting into – mindless, campy, laugh-out-loud trash – then it delivers.
you know, i love spin as much as the next guy.
however, im trying to figure out how 57 million for FF2 is being spun as a massive success, and Spidey 3/Pirates 3/Shrek 3 are being touted as failures.
i guess it’s all expectation of the frontload.
I had an enjoyable time watching O13, and it may have even been better than the first film. The problem is that it was a bit two familiar. One of the things I liked so much about O12 was that for all the “it’s just a bunch of stars hanging out in nice locations”, it seemed like much more of a Soderbergh film in spirit.
As mentioned above, the Casey Affleck in Mexico scenes were a great detour, made even funnier when Scott Caan goes down to check up on him. And the Clooney/Pitt Oprah scene, referenced again at the end of the film with Damon, was possibly worth the price of admission all by itself.
Considering how few actually “cool” actors we have left, I don’t mind plunking down a few bucks to watch them just being cool. If it ain’t quite The Sting, well, you can’t expect so much.
That bit where they show Clooney and Pitt watching Oprah was quite hilarious because a lot of people in my cinema (myself and my friend included) all mumbled to their friends “I’ve seen that episode!”