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By David Poland poland@moviecitynews.com

It's A Ratatouille World After All

Variety’s latest international box office round up caused me to look up the latest on how Ratatouille fits into the Pixar picture.
Well… it just passed Cars to become Pixar’s #5 worldwide grosser of all time. And Toy Story 2 is well in view, likely to be passed this week, just $10 million away. The film did over $21 million in the last week.
The film just opened in the UK and closes out its major market openings next weekend in Italy, where Cars did $16 million last summer. The final worldwide number looks to be about $520 million… still not enough to take The Incredibles‘ #3 slot and likely to come up just behind The Simpsons‘ $525 million worldwide. But $530 million, beating out both films’ positions, is possible
So do ya think that maybe all the authors of those “Ratatouille is a dissapointment” stories owe the best mainstream animated film of 2007 a bit of an apology?

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27 Responses to “It's A Ratatouille World After All”

  1. But you should know by now Dave that there are some people who are deliberately negative and they will spin news like that negatively no matter how innacurate and false it is.

  2. Oh, and
    “Mouse execs are launching “Plan” next month in Oz and Asia with hopes of duplicating the $85 million foreign take for “The Pacifier.””
    Difference is The Pacifier didn’t have American football in it.

  3. IOIOIOI says:

    Ratatouille is a disappointment in terms of Cars ancillary profits. Those Cars toys are still freakin selling. The ancillary profits off of those toys may be as much as Ratatouille’s international gross. Outside of that… Ratatouille is still one hell of a film even with it’s shitty toy sales.

  4. IOIOIOI says:

    American Football? Seriously… it’s soccer. Why the rest of the world refuses to use the term that was created by the first ever professional SOCCER club… is beyond me. It shows the arrogance of the world. It really does ;).

  5. Blackcloud says:

    At least there shouldn’t be any confusion in Oz, where the national team of not-American football is known as the Socceroos.

  6. GlueShoeJohnson says:

    How about Order of the Phoenix, David? Even you said it was going to be #3 of the series domestic and #4 WW. You probably don’t owe Warner’s an apology, but it seems that everyone is deciding the fate of a movie before it has a chance to show its legs these days.

  7. Ian Sinclair says:

    It’s called football because it’s played with your feet. A better term for American football would be handball, or as we call it in my family, That Game That They Play Here That We Never Watch Because Of All the Ad Breaks.

  8. IOIOIOI says:

    Ian; save your snark for Jeff. Again; it’s football because it used to be based off of running the ball and kicking it for points. Very much like a refined form of Rugby. It only changed once the FORWARD pass came into play. Nevertheless; look up the origin of soccer and work it out for yourself.

  9. Dr Wally says:

    Soccer is called football everywhere except the U.S. Hence why people outside the U.S. call what Americans call football ‘American football’ to keep it straight. and ‘American’ football doesn’t really sell in movie terms outside of the U.S. Invincible and We Are Marshall (both of which grossed more domestically than Blood Diamond, Flags of our Fathers, Apocalypto or The Prestige last Winter), astonishingly are both going straight to DVD in other territories.
    And Friday Night Lights scarcely got seen outside North America despite glowing reviews. So no, i wouldn’t say that ‘Game Plan’ is going to do particularly well in foreign markets.

  10. Ian Sinclair says:

    It always makes me laugh when Americans call that baseball competition the “World Series” when there are only about three countries who play that silly game. In Britain it is a girls game called “Rounders.”

  11. Ian Sinclair says:

    I remember they had to erase the baseball bat Kevin Costner was leaning on in the non-US posters for BULL DURHAM. Baseball and American Football are the kiss of death for movies outside the US. Ice hockey pictures do a little better.

  12. jeffmcm says:

    “In Britain it is a girls game called “Rounders.””
    Tell us more on this subject, why don’t you?

  13. Ian Sinclair says:

    Rounders, like Cricket, evolved from a gane called Stoolball. Rounders has been played in England since Tudor times, with the earliest reference being in 1744 in “A Little Pretty Pocketbook” where it was called baseball. Most baseball historians accept that their sport is evolved from rounders. Rounders is the name used by Jane Austen in her book “Northanger Abbey”. Rounders is still played in England and Wales by schoolgirls, but ceased to be played by schoolboys after Cricket ceased being the strict perserve of the Upper and Middle Classes.

  14. jeffmcm says:

    I was actually more interested in your categorization of which activities are appropriate for boys or for girls. Also, to which game is it most appropriate for one to bring bangers and/or mash?

  15. David Poland says:

    Fair enough, Glue… though Potter V moving into the 2 spot domestically by $740,498 is a little suspicious, the international was a solid #2 of the series and the #6 movie of ALL TIME. Remarkable.

  16. Ian Sinclair says:

    Well, judging from a remark from a chum a moment ago, Jeff, British girls could certainly play for any Major League baseball side and, for that matter, outplay any man currently playing for the New York Mets, as could, I am reliably informed, their grandmothers.

  17. jeffmcm says:

    Yes, this is the subject upon which I would like you to expound. Please tell us more about the genetic and cultural superiority of the British peoples over their lesser American offspring if you have the time?

  18. martin says:

    It’s not hyperbole to say that Ratatouille was a modest domestic disappointment. That said, it had better legs than some expected, and apparently did well internationally. I think it can only be termed a disappointment when judged as a new Pixar movie – with expectations being that they try to do bigger business each time.

  19. Ian Sinclair says:

    Jeff, don’t be ridiculous! The British do not enjoy genetic and cultural superiority over Americans – have you ever see a Scotsman’s teeth? A Welshman’s table manners? A Northern Irishman’s taste in tea towels? The British per se do not enjoy such a superiority; that is something only an Englishman enjoys.

  20. Cadavra says:

    Only in Hollywood could a G-rated movie with a $204 million domestic gross be a “disappointment.” As a former boss once said in a similar situation, “It made money everywhere but in people’s minds.”

  21. IOIOIOI says:

    Yes; Cricket is such a manly game. I would also like to thank Ian for belittling the people’s of Latin america, Japan, parts of Asia, and North America. Good call on you Ian. Freakin mental git.

  22. Direwolf says:

    Hey, DP, I’ve been writing about Rat’s intl box office from Disney’s perspective for a few weeks now. It is an underappreciated story for sure. As noted in the thread, the merchandising will never match Cars but Disney execs have said Cars blew away all other Pixar films for merchandising so that comparison might not be fair. From the perspective of a Disney shareholder, I think the story is that analysts were very cautious about Rat and it will exceed the estimates in their spreadsheets. That includes box office and all ancillaries. Thus good news if you care about it from a stock perspective as I do.
    One other thing, most of the upside for Rat abroad is the ridiculously large numbers in France. $65 million vs. $14 million for Cars in France and North Africa. Hmmm, maybe that will help EuroDisney.

  23. jeffmcm says:

    Ian is giving actual Englishmen a bad name.

  24. Aladdin Sane says:

    jeff, why stop there?
    Ian is giving humanity a bad name.

  25. Blackcloud says:

    ^Whoa, my friend! Has it actually been established that Ian is human? I’m not sure I can make that leap of logic with you.

  26. “and ‘American’ football doesn’t really sell in movie terms outside of the U.S. Invincible and We Are Marshall … astonishingly are both going straight to DVD in other territories.”
    True. I think the only movie with American Football (I use the term to avoid confusion considering only America seems to play your variety, right?) that made any money down here at least was Remembering the Titans. Even that Adam Sandler movie and Any Given Sunday did very poorly if memory serves. Their domestic/international ratio at Box Office Mojo suggests as much.

  27. adaml says:

    Ian is a clown and has a funny post ratio of about 1 in 10 which is about 9 in 10 lower than he thinks it is.
    He also raves about any English film even though most are rubbish. The first ‘Elizabeth’ (which also starred a former ‘soccer’ star Eric Cantona and quiz show host Angus Deayton) was borderline crap (saved only by Blanchett) and his glowing remarks about the sequel will ensure I wont get anywhere near it, since he seems to like everything I hate, not to mention the fact that 24% on rottentomatoes says it all.
    Oh and American Football and Baseball are both great sports. Ice Hockey no the other hand… then again isn’t it practically dying in the States anyway?
    I’m from London btw.

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