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BYOB – Thursday

For Andromeda venting or anything else… other than infantile fighting between people who love fighting more than thinking sometimes…

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34 Responses to “BYOB – Thursday”

  1. Rob says:

    Can I just say that IFC has had an amazing release slate so far this year? 4 Months, 3 Weeks, 2 Days; Flight of the Red Balloon; the completely exhilarating Love Songs; Savage Grace (Julianne Moore’s best work since Far From Heaven); Paranoid Park.
    I’ve made the effort to see these films in the theater, but I’m psyched that the First Take program makes them more accessible to people in smaller markets. In several cases, I’ve called my Mom in Pittsburgh (a city that likely would not book a theatrical run of, say, Duchess of Langeais) after seeing one and she’s been able to take me up on the recommendation immediately.
    Does anyone know there’s any data to support whether or not people are using First Take?

  2. SJRubinstein says:

    This is the weirdest weekend – “Kung Fu Panda?” Or “Chop Shop?” I really, really can’t make up my mind which of these two critical darlings I’ll be seeing though it does appear a “double-feature” in the same theater will be out of the question.

  3. jeffmcm says:

    Oh, man, did I hate Savage Grace when I saw it in January. It really struck me as a clueless train wreck. Nothing against Moore, who I think did the best she could with poor direction and screenwriting.
    DP, I think your words at the top of this post are a good example of where problems originate.

  4. David Poland says:

    “Please explain, J-Mc,” DP asked like an idiot.

  5. New York has a fine small film opening Friday at the Quad, an understated story similar to CHOP SHOP… called TAKE OUT. It’s taken forever to get released, but it’s a small, good one.

  6. jeffmcm says:

    With an invitation like that, who could resist?

  7. Joe Leydon says:

    This weekend: If it’s playing anywhere near you, check out Stuck No kidding.

  8. Noah says:

    Thanks for the tip, Ray…the Quad is around the block from me and I’ll check it out this weekend.
    Rob, couldn’t agree more with you. IFC has released the best movies I’ve seen so far this year, including Paranoid Park which I think is just a flat-out masterpiece. I’ve been wondering for a while now how their “First Take” films are doing, whether or not they are making more money than they would have with a limited release and then DVD.

  9. movieman says:

    Most box-office prognosticators are expecting a typical Adam Sandler/mid-$30s opening weekend for “You Don’t Mess With the Zohan.” I’m not so sure.
    Does anybody else get the feeling that this might sputter at the starting gate just like another “surefire,” star-driven comedy (“Semi-Pro”) did a few months back?
    I know this is destined to be a minority opinion, but I really enjoyed “Zohan” (think “‘Borat’ meets ‘Munich'”) and I’d love
    to see it do (at least) as well as “Chuck & Larry” did last summer which–sorry, Armond–was pure s***.
    Yet, for some reason, I’m getting major flop vibes.
    (And yes, I’m a big-time Sandler fan/defender: “Bulletproof,” “The Water Boy,” “Reign Over Me” and “C&L” are the only AS films I’ve ever panned.)
    While I’d like to see the excellent “Kung Fu Panda” open as big as the pundits are predicting, $50-million-plus seems a trifle high, doesn’t it?
    Even if S&TC” drops 50% this weekend–which it’s almost guaranteed to do–it should have no trouble hitting the magical $100-million mark by Sunday nite. Sarah JP & Co. have been raking in $5-million-plus every day this week.

  10. Chucky in Jersey says:

    “War, Inc.” expands to NYC suburbs tomorrow — let’s hope the megaplexes pick it up before long.
    As for “Savage Grace”? Let us count the ways it will tank . . .
    Part of “First Take”, thus the film gets frozen out of the big chains. Strike One.
    Trailer name-checks a barely released arthouse pic and two pieces of Oscar Bait. Strike Two.
    Trailer includes the deadly line phrase that pays “Academy Award Nominee Julianne Moore”. Strike Three — yerrrrrrrrr OUT!

  11. jeffmcm says:

    In honor of my new policy of not arguing with irrational people who refuse to listen to reason, I’ll just say that I think Chucky is wrong as always.
    Especially on War Inc. – isn’t it near-universally disliked?

  12. scooterzz says:

    for what it’s worth, i loved ‘kung fu panda’….as much for its script as for its visuals…and it’s so densly layered in martial arts lore/trivia that i’m sure i missed several references…..
    and— like leydon said, stuart gordon’s ‘stuck’ really is worth checking out….hilarious and horrifying and mena suvari has one of the best movie lines ever…
    i hated both ‘get smart’ and ‘…zohan’ (i just can’t decide which one i hated most)….

  13. SJRubinstein says:

    The weird thing about “War, Inc.” is that I had long heard that it was just terribly unwatchable/borderline unreleasable, but now it seems to have all these fans that are saying to look at it “as a parable” or to focus on what it’s “trying to say” – as opposed, perhaps, to what’s actually on screen.
    When I worked the junket circuit, I remember getting those press kits that started out with, “A screwball throwback to the days of Preston Sturges” or something in relation to, say, Joe Roth’s “American Sweethearts” (not to pick on John Cusack), which always seemed to chide reviewers and audience folks alike that if they didn’t like the film, it meant they were rubes. Hell, I think they tried that with “Laws of Attraction” (while, of course, on the subject of forgettable Julianne Moore flicks – here’s hoping on “Boone’s Lick”).
    To that, I’m planning to NetFlix “War, Inc.” me-self.

  14. Chucky in Jersey says:

    If “Savage Grace” is so great how come AMC, Regal and Cinemark/Century will not play it? First Take = Video on Demand.
    Those who hate “War, Inc.” also thought “Wag the Dog” was a fantasy.

  15. jeffmcm says:

    Have you actually seen it, Chucky?

  16. TheVicuna says:

    I, for one, have no problem with the politics of John Cusack or of his compatriot Tim Robbins. My problem is with the sledgehammer-like subtlety they use to make their points. Satire requires a defter hand than I think Cusack — who, for better or worse, always comes across as a high school kid who just discovered his first punk rock single — is capable of.

  17. movieman says:

    Whew; that’s a relief.
    Just read A.O. Scott’s rave review of “Zohan” on NYTimes.com.
    Now I don’t feel so out on a limb after all, lol.

  18. SJRubinstein says:

    Just saw that Wilmington reviewed the new James/Gilbert doc, “At the Death House Door,” giving it three stars. It’s quite a movie, actually, though I felt it ran out of gas. The first 45 minutes or so – where it shows how a local minister went from dealing with a horrifying hostage situation at Huntsville prison that resulted in the death of two female members of his parish to him becoming the death house chaplain at the same prison – is extraordinary. Watching how this man deals with this great responsibility is pretty fascinating, but – for me – when it becomes an anti-death penalty film, it wasn’t as interesting as, sadly, it’s a story that was pretty familiar.

  19. The Big Perm says:

    Doesn’t War, Inc have OSCAR WINNER Marisa Tomei in it?
    It must be a piece of shit!

  20. Aris P says:

    Maybe you guys had already heard this one, but i just saw a commercial for The Happening, where the trailer guy ACTUALLY SAID: “m. knight shyamalan’s FIRST R-RATED THRILLER…”
    So, if i’m to understand correctly, some marketing genius (read: his assistant) actually came up with the hail-mary idea to address the constant whining on AICN (and other places) about the lack of good R rated fare. SO, since the studio knows it’s not really a good film by any stretch, they go the geek-talkbackers-appeasement route. there must be some term for this, something with “post-post” in it…
    Yes, i think i finally understand marketing 101 in 2008.

  21. In defence of the argument I was having with Eric a few threads over, at least we were arguing about a movie.
    “If “Savage Grace” is so great how come AMC, Regal and Cinemark/Century will not play it?”
    Because it’s about incest? I can’t imagine “the masses” would be flocking to that one even in a fit of “oh let’s be daring and see one of those foreign films.” Not the greatest movie I’ve ever seen by a long shot, but Moore was fabulous and the storyline was definitely ripe for the picking.

  22. Moreover, the “R” in THE HAPPENING is colored red at the end of the trailer when they do the title card thingy. WTF? “R” hasn’t been a big deal in 5 years….

  23. jeffmcm says:

    No, they’re highlighting the R in the ads to make the movie look more enticing. Same Shyamalan stuff, but now more explicit/violent/bloody!

  24. sloanish says:

    Congratulations to the 2008 Stanley Cup Champion Detroit Red Wings. I long for the day when someone else gives a shit.

  25. Martin S says:

    Anyone here go to the Hulk NYC screening? Poland? You were in town when it went down.

  26. Eric says:

    Camel, I wondered for a moment if that was directed at us, too, but I quickly just wrote it off as more of DP’s passive-aggressive sniping at Jeff. I think we’ve got a long way to go before we unseat Jeff from his special place in Poland’s heart.

  27. Aris P says:

    sloanish, i’m with you. love the game. people would rather watch reruns of Bones instead of the finals… their loss.

  28. crazycris says:

    I for one am much more interested in sports than cinema this weekend… what with the finals at Roland Garros (can Nadal catch up to Bjorn Borg’s 4-tournament in a row winning streak? or will Federer finally get the one jewel missing on his crown? if he can continue playing the way he is and defeat Monfils in this semifinal; can Safina pull off a surprise victory and do what her brother couldn

  29. Haha, Leatherheads made an astonishing debut at the Australian box office at #14! Not even George Clooney can make people give a damn about american football outside of the US.

  30. crazycris says:

    I think the spanish promotors are taking that into account here kamel (lack of american football interest), they’ve been pushing the “romantic” aspect more… is there one? :p

  31. jeffmcm says:

    Thanks Eric. Obviously I need to call more people offensive names to get into good graces.

  32. Eric says:

    It helps to do it all in caps, too.

  33. Chucky in Jersey says:

    Don’t forget Big Brown going for the Triple Crown at the Belmont Stakes tomorrow afternoon.

  34. crazy, they did it here too. The poster features George and Renee looking lovingly at each other. Nary a mention of American football. Alas, we’re smarter than that.

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It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon