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BYOB Thursday 625

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34 Responses to “BYOB Thursday 625”

  1. Aris P says:

    Anyone have a solid contact at Criterion? I need to work there. Thanks.

  2. Crow T Robot says:

    Caught Proyas’s The Crow again for the first time in forever and I was struck deeply by the similarities between Lee and Heath Ledger’s Joker. Every now and then their snarling white clown faces look identical.
    I don’t know if anyone has compared the two CHARACTERS before but, given the actors’ similar fates, it’s more than a little eerie.

  3. mysteryperfecta says:

    Transformers 2 had a $60 million Wednesday. Any guesses on its 5-day? New record?

  4. LexG says:

    Biggest star in America.
    Maybe after THIS one they won’t waste her in unreleased movies and Simon Pegg bullshit for two years.
    In other news, I want to R her A.

  5. jeffmcm says:

    Does she still look like a blow-up doll?

  6. LYT says:

    Crow – I think I commented way back when that actors should think twice about any comic-book role that requires Alice Cooper-style makeup.

  7. LYT says:

    And speaking of people wearing excessive white makeup dying…Michael Jackson, apparently.

  8. Joe Leydon says:

    First a 70s icon, then an 80s icon…

  9. Nicol D says:

    The fact that CNN still will not confirm what readers or TMZ and Drudge have known for almost an hour is yet another nail in the coffin of mainstream media.

  10. Wrecktum says:

    Hey, he lasted eight years longer than Elvis. Grats!

  11. Joe Leydon says:

    I wonder how Sidney Lumet feels knowing that he outlived his Wiz star? Anyway, my take, for what it’s worth:

  12. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    I feel very sad about Jackson’s passing. I’m watching Jackson 5 clips now and am welling up. Yeah he was deeply flawed. yeah he was weird as fuck. Yeah he was probably insane. But I never ever thought he had a malicious evil bone in his body. And damn man, the dude makes me retardedly happy when I see him do his thang.
    Fox is 23 going on 36. At least Stone waited til her mid 30s before getting lots of work done. Fox’s weird franken-spelling boobs look like Dr Rey used silly putty and then unleashed several roundhouse kicks to each one.

  13. Nicol D says:

    Nice. As I told my partner about Michael Jackson’s passing my daughter was in her musical standee toy. The song that was playing at the time was The Jackson Five’s ABC 123.
    For all the controversy, MJ was a musical genius and for that he will be missed.

  14. jeffmcm says:

    I thought you were married, Nicol.

  15. Nicol D says:

    Didn’t say I wasn’t.

  16. jeffmcm says:

    Total anal nitpickery that you can blast me for, but typically married people only refer to their spouses as ‘my partner’ if they’re gay. Which I don’t believe you are.

  17. Nicol D says:

    Or if they are also their business partner.
    …or maybe I am gay.
    Always leave’em guessing!

  18. IOIOIOI says:

    Nicol might not be gay, but the spaz is. So one out of two is not bad.

  19. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    @jeffmcm. Ok I will. Does your heart beat? I love how instead of commenting on Jackson’s death you tackle the much more pressing subject of Nicol’s usage of the term partner.
    I’m actually curious how an adhd ocd borderline asperger personality feels about the passing of the greatest pop artist who ever lived? Anything? Bueller?

  20. Joe Leydon says:

    Jeff McM: Master of the cheap shot, the cowardly slur, and the homophobic implication. What a maroon. I mean, Great God Almighty, Nicol could have been on his cell phone, talking to a business partner, while watching his daughter. But, no: That thought never entered Sparky’s empty little head. I think Mr. Prissy Pants needs to look in the mirror and ask himself some painful self-examining questions.
    BTW, Nicol: Years ago, as my partner (aka The Long-Suffering Mrs. Leydon) was driving me home from The Shreveport Times on the day of Elvis Presley’s death, after I had cranked out a long obit, we heard the song “Strawberry Letter 22” on the car radio. Ever since then, I always associated that song with The King’s death. Do I have to tell you what song I heard playing in the very first restaurant I visited in Memphis, right after I, no kidding, checked into The Heartbreak Hotel, nearly 30 years later?

  21. jeffmcm says:

    Sometimes I just don’t get you guys.

  22. Nicol D says:

    You are a really good storyteller when it comes to recounting your experiences in and around the entertainment industry. I love reading your writings on them.
    I hope your students appreciate them also.

  23. jeffmcm says:

    To respond to JBD, I have mixed feelings on the whole affair. He was an icon, sure, but he also turned into a literal freak. That said, I notice a lot of instant gleeful cackling and vulturism that’s somewhat disgraceful.
    And to respond to Joe, I’m happy to accept any of the multiple apologies you owe me (both from your posts from the last couple of years, and for five minutes ago) whenever you can muster the strength of character to provide them.

  24. LexG says:

    For all you MEGAN FOX FANS, I *highly* recommend “Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen,” as it has both FOX (as the snooty bad girl) AND Lindsay Lohan, and they get in little catfights and try to outdo each other and try on cute outfits.

  25. martin says:

    Lex, aren’t they like 12 years old in that movie? WTF is wrong with you?

  26. Triple Option says:

    As far as Meagan Fox goes, I saw Trans 2 yesterday and wondered if she had any work done or if it was more cgi painting going on or she actually made it big because she had such accentuated features. Does anyone know did she really have work done or is that paint? I had seen pics and some of her “work” prior to and I don’t remember her features being so pronounced but then I wasn’t paying that close attention. Will admit to always thinking she was pretty hot. I know they enhanced Summer Glau’s behind on Sarah Connor Chron ads.
    Meanwhile plenty of lovely dark skin Sistahs can’t get work for looking too “ethnic.”
    I don’t know if there’s a better Trans 2 thread so I’ll ask here, did any of the screenings that you went to did Meagan’s intro shot get an unintended laugh for being so, I don’t know the best word, gratuitous? There was a comedian I saw years ago, I think Mike McDonald (not Norm) who I believe is a Canauck as well, had this bit about staying out as a teen past curfew and worried about getting busted. But then his friends would say, well if you’re late at 1 AM, why not stay out longer? What are you going to be “more late”? Then he’d stumble home at 4 AM and find his father waiting out on the porch having already called the cops and realizing how busted he was because he was indeed, ‘MORE LATE! Not to be a spoiler but some of the shots of women in college life Bay had in Trans 2 were just beyond creative license. Good heavens, does anyone tell this guy no? Was there even an argument like “this doesn’t look like college life,”? “What are you talking about?! There are TONZ of hawt women on college campuses and parties. We’re just stretching what those parties and women would look like.” When to me it looked like he went from exaggerated to too exaggerated. I know we’re not here for realism but I’ve never watched a Wile E Coyote cartoon and rolled my eyes thinking, ‘oh, come on!’

  27. mysteryperfecta says:

    I felt the urge to come to jeffmcm’s defense. In no way did his remark to Nicol question come off as demeaning, and when Nicol mentioned his ‘partner’, it is not at all unusual to consider it a reference to a gay partner (at present, its MORE unusual to refer to a business partner as “my partner”). As jeff thought Nicol was hetero, it struck him as odd.
    Don’t be so damn sensitive.

  28. jesse says:

    Triple Option, as a fellow alum of the school Bay attended (I went there well after he did, though I did catch his screening of The Rock with accompanying douchebaggy post-movie Q&A a couple years after the movie came out), I can say that any ridiculous portrayals of college as one gigantic rap video/frat party were probably borne out of not just Bay’s usual BS, but probably also some semi-latent wish-fulfillment, because it’s unlikely he got any of that during his actual college career (our school was the basis for the little-seen 1993 campus comedy “PCU”).

  29. Joe Leydon says:

    Mystery: Sorry, but there are three rules to live by:
    1. Never pass up a chance to sleep.
    2. Never pass up a chance to have sex. (Obviously, this rule supercedes Rule No. 1.)
    3. Never pass up a chance to bitch-slap a maroon.

  30. jeffmcm says:

    Joe, I would love to make amends and move beyond this.
    But you take too much glee in it. Wayyyy too much.

  31. LexG says:

    SHE IS HOT. I LIKE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    More than K-STEW? Maybe not quite, but it’s VERY VERY CLOSE.
    Also, not enough people are talking up that SUPERMODEL ALIEN CHICK who tries to fuck LaDouche in T2.
    Why and how are you proceeding with your day’s plans KNOWING THAT YOU ARE NOT FUCKING THEM?
    Says the guy who’s going to work in an hour.

  32. Joe Leydon says:

    LexG: If you keep this up, you’ll go blind. And then how will you get your work done?

  33. LexG says:

    I wish I weren’t so ugly and hated.
    I wish I had friends.
    I wish somebody on this planet liked me.
    There is nothing anymore.
    (ie, see ya next week for the same bullshit. Maybe.)
    I probably won’t shower today. Water is uncomfortable on my skin.

  34. Jeffrey Boam's Doctor says:

    Lex channels Rupert Pupkin

Quote Unquotesee all »

It shows how out of it I was in trying to be in it, acknowledging that I was out of it to myself, and then thinking, “Okay, how do I stop being out of it? Well, I get some legitimate illogical narrative ideas” — some novel, you know?

So I decided on three writers that I might be able to option their material and get some producer, or myself as producer, and then get some writer to do a screenplay on it, and maybe make a movie.

And so the three projects were “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep,” “Naked Lunch” and a collection of Bukowski. Which, in 1975, forget it — I mean, that was nuts. Hollywood would not touch any of that, but I was looking for something commercial, and I thought that all of these things were coming.

There would be no Blade Runner if there was no Ray Bradbury. I couldn’t find Philip K. Dick. His agent didn’t even know where he was. And so I gave up.

I was walking down the street and I ran into Bradbury — he directed a play that I was going to do as an actor, so we know each other, but he yelled “hi” — and I’d forgot who he was.

So at my girlfriend Barbara Hershey’s urging — I was with her at that moment — she said, “Talk to him! That guy really wants to talk to you,” and I said “No, fuck him,” and keep walking.

But then I did, and then I realized who it was, and I thought, “Wait, he’s in that realm, maybe he knows Philip K. Dick.” I said, “You know a guy named—” “Yeah, sure — you want his phone number?”

My friend paid my rent for a year while I wrote, because it turned out we couldn’t get a writer. My friends kept on me about, well, if you can’t get a writer, then you write.”
~ Hampton Fancher

“That was the most disappointing thing to me in how this thing was played. Is that I’m on the phone with you now, after all that’s been said, and the fundamental distinction between what James is dealing with in these other cases is not actually brought to the fore. The fundamental difference is that James Franco didn’t seek to use his position to have sex with anyone. There’s not a case of that. He wasn’t using his position or status to try to solicit a sexual favor from anyone. If he had — if that were what the accusation involved — the show would not have gone on. We would have folded up shop and we would have not completed the show. Because then it would have been the same as Harvey Weinstein, or Les Moonves, or any of these cases that are fundamental to this new paradigm. Did you not notice that? Why did you not notice that? Is that not something notable to say, journalistically? Because nobody could find the voice to say it. I’m not just being rhetorical. Why is it that you and the other critics, none of you could find the voice to say, “You know, it’s not this, it’s that”? Because — let me go on and speak further to this. If you go back to the L.A. Times piece, that’s what it lacked. That’s what they were not able to deliver. The one example in the five that involved an issue of a sexual act was between James and a woman he was dating, who he was not working with. There was no professional dynamic in any capacity.

~ David Simon