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What Was Your First Clue?

I just saw a post that said that Harry Potter 6 would open huge. Wow. Glad we had that info from MovieTickets.com and Fandango to tell us that. Or maybe it is the most obvious opening in the movie business today.
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix – $77,108,414 – 7/11/07
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets – $88,357,488 – 11/15/02
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone – $90,294,621 – 11/16/01
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban – $93,687,367 – 6/4/04
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire – $102,685,961 – 11/18/05
Please note, the one Potter films whose 3-day is under $88 million is Phoenix, which is also the only film prior to this new one to open on a Wednesday.
Please also note that Phoenix was the 2nd highest Potter domestic gross in history (2nd only to the first of the series) and made more in its first 5 days than any other Potter film by about $20 million.
Anything under $135 million in the first 5 days will be a disappointment to WB. Anything more than $140m will be a new franchise record.

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28 Responses to “What Was Your First Clue?”

  1. Chucky in Jersey says:

    ~yawn~

  2. martin says:

    Chucky, you have to admit Potter 6 has a lot going for it:
    The director of State of Play (tv), the writer of Wonder Boys, and a cast full of Oscar luminaries such as Broadbent, Gambon, Bonham-Carter, and Rickman. Come on, that kind of pedigree has to get you excited. It’s also produced by David Barron, who is a longtime Branagh collaborator on his classics Hamlet and Othello. David Heyman co-produces, and he is box office gold with such hits as Yes Man and I Am Legend. Still not excited?

  3. Telemachos says:

    The HP series isn’t that exciting, unless you’re a big fan. There are talented people involved, but somehow each movie always feels like less than the sum of their efforts — it’s all tamped down in deference to the Absolute Power of the HP plot. Heaven forbid things be cut, after all. (And yes, I know that a good deal of minor trimming has happened.)
    But really, Gambon is solid (but not amazing) and everyone else seems to be along for the ride but not bringing anything special. The only film in the series that actually felt different and more energetic than the others is AZKABAN, which I gather is the least favorite of the diehard fans because of the liberties taken.
    So no, it’s not that exciting. It’s solid but uneventful.

  4. Hallick says:

    “The director of State of Play (tv), the writer of Wonder Boys, and a cast full of Oscar luminaries such as Broadbent, Gambon, Bonham-Carter, and Rickman. Come on, that kind of pedigree has to get you excited.”
    If it were anything other than a Harry Potter movie, then yeah, that’s a tantalizing prospect for sure. But it isn’t. It’s still a Harry Potter movie, and of all the things Harry Potter movies excel at, UNDERUTILIZING talent is right at the top of the list. Rickman’s been in I don’t know how many of these now and he STILL hasn’t had a breakaway, knock-the-popcorn-off-your-lap-through-the-back-wall moment.

  5. Wrecktum says:

    I think the moral is: top-notch talent likes to cash paychecks too.

  6. The Big Perm says:

    Hey, Chucky says this movie is sure to bomb because the VERY NAME ITSELF is like “hey, if you liked Harry Potter, here’s another one!” Can you GET any more BLATANT with NAME CHECKING???!!??
    Also, the adults aren’t supposed to get huge moments in these movies. It’s not about them.

  7. Chucky in Jersey says:

    Haters: I fell asleep in the 3rd Harry Potter. That cured me of any plans to see the 4th, 5th, 6th, etc., etc.

  8. jeffmcm says:

    “Haters”? You’re crazy.

  9. Lota says:

    The HP movies lost their charm after #2. However, I can’t pass up a Goth Alan Rickman. When he points his wand at me speaks all stern-like, I get excited. No sarcasm intended…As a moviegoer, I love me some Alan Rickman when he’s dark.

  10. jeffmcm says:

    And I thought #3 was the only good one.

  11. leahnz says:

    oh lota, you broke my heart there just a little,
    ‘azkaban’ has charm oozing out every orifice!
    for example, from about 2:20 in:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmE06ZiW8QQ
    the reflection in the water, those dragging talons, the score that makes my heart soar as high as harry & buckbeak! beauty
    (couldn’t agree more about rickman, tho, by grabthar’s hammer)

  12. Lota says:

    Azkaban is a well-made movie and I love Sirius Black…but despite the better directed film perhaps…the kids were not that magical to me, less innocence or something. and the movies, like the books, are really about the kids.

  13. Lota says:

    i also didn;t like all of the explanations and telling not showing when the kids see Sirius for the first time, then Lupin walks in…then SNAPE…then oy vey! Too much talking.
    I didn;t hate it, ne’er worry.

  14. leahnz says:

    fair enough, beauty and the eye and all that

  15. Tofu says:

    they’re all pretty kool, doods O_Ob
    $150 million 5-day would be splendid. The midnight sellouts appear to be exceeding all previous installments.

  16. yancyskancy says:

    martin: Your response to Chucky was funny, but I might as well be the know-it-all who points out that Gambon, Bonham-Carter and Rickman have never been Oscar-nominated.
    I like the Potter films. I’ve read only Goblet of Fire, after seeing the first 3 films. Might go ahead and read Deathly Hallows after I’ve seen Half Blood Prince.

  17. Columbus’ films are kinda terrible. Azkaban is incredible, and the ones after that have been above average and a fine way to spend a couple of hours. That’s all I have to say, really.

  18. Tofu says:

    Carter – Best Actress in a Leading Role for The Wings of the Dove (1997).

  19. IOIOIOI says:

    Today on the hot blog: hatred of the Harry Potter films. Later: a new review from David, that takes place while he’s on the shitter. Much later: Lex discusses his love of vagina, and his desire to kill himself like a chump. That’s all here today on the Hot Blog. A sub-division of Goldman Sachs.

  20. Triple Option says:

    That was funny, IOI.
    I’ll confess, and not necessarily proud of the fact that I have yet to see a Potter film. I am not opposed but I was thinking I needed to see the early installments first. Like bills, they’ve kinda mounted up on me in neglect. I know I should at least see the first one but can anyone tell me which would be the must sees on the list from that point on?
    Was Azkaban by the ones who were relative unknowns and then broke out w/some big hit or Oscar nom film after it? Maybe that describes everyone but I vaguely remember hearing one install was a little more out of its shell and that dude blew up after it. Am I getting too much second hand smoke or does it sound familiar? I should prolly see whatever one that one was.

  21. leahnz says:

    well, i enjoyed ‘half blood prince’ far more than yates’ ‘order of the phoenix’, which fell quite flat for me, lacking in heart, menace, humour, charm and emotion. so a shout out for kloves as returning scribe, welcome back man, you were sorely missed.
    kloves does an admirable job of simplifying and adapting what is a very long, very dense novel for the screen, capturing the flavour of ‘HB prince’ in a way that ‘phoenix’ COMPLETELY missed the mark imho. consequently, yates does a more assured job this time out bringing this better-constructed story to life, hitting some fine notes along the way with well-considered perfs and moments of humour, horror and pathos, anchored by: a subtle, mature turn by radcliff, now largely resigned to harry’s fate; broadbent’s pompous yet well-meaning and regretful slughorn; and most surprisingly, a tormented turn by felton as draco malfoy that succeeds in giving the film a deeper layer and some palpable conflict as harry shadows malfoy, trying to thwart his unknown mission, while malfory struggles with his destiny. this is the most effective element in the film as far as i’m concerned.
    while the movie does lack a bit of punch and has a certain meandering quality to it – like crossing a long bridge knowing there are more, longer bridges ahead so you need to pace yourself – it’s an enjoyable way to find out about the boy riddle leading up to his becoming the genocidal, fractured soul that is lord voldemort, revealed through the time travels of harry and the terribly groovy dumbledore (i particularly liked the visual manifestations of the wispy memories in the pensieve) and amidst the yearnings of horny teens and quiddich. not bad at all, looking forward the ‘the hallows’ (pity the conclusion of that two-parter is years away, it seems so long to wait)

  22. martin says:

    They’re fantasy movies for little kids. Take them for what they are. As far as serials go, you can pick up later on and still have a reasonable idea as to the backstory. I wouldn’t watch 8 hours of Potter just to make sure I could follow the new one if I hadn’t already.

  23. Cadavra says:

    One factor that might work against HBP: since the IMAX openings are delayed two weeks because of the fucking giant fucking robots movie, some folks (including yours truly) will wait.

  24. leahnz says:

    ‘They’re fantasy movies for little kids.’
    martin, that’s a rather dismissive thing to say. the HP movies, like them or no, are not made for wee tykes. they are fantasy-adventure produced for a ‘family’ audience, and ‘half blood prince’ is aimed SQUARELY at teens with angst (the huge cinema i saw it in was packed to the gills with a diverse audience from kids thu to gaggles of teen girls, teen boys in gangly wolfpacks, and adults without any kids)

  25. yancyskancy says:

    Tofu: Thanks for the correction. Guess I didn’t have Oscar’s entire history memorized after all. Bonham-Carter’s nomination was well-deserved.

  26. Triple Option, Azkaban was by Alfonso Cuaron.

  27. Joe Leydon says:

    $20 million gross for midnight screenings. Not bad.

  28. Tofu says:

    $22 million, even. Wow-wee-wow wow wow.

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