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BYOB Weekend 11/21/11

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69 Responses to “BYOB Weekend 11/21/11”

  1. Chris says:

    So The Way Back is a pretty good movie, why is it being ignored?

  2. Anthony says:

    Errol Morris has a new film out, They Were There – a short documentary celebrating (advertising) 100 years of IBM Corp. The music is by Philip Glass.

  3. Telemachos says:

    Chris — it’s being dumped in 600 theaters and doesn’t have any awards buzz, that’s why. (It’s also not a particularly audience-friendly film).

  4. Proman says:

    Thanks for the link, Anthony.

  5. IOv3 says:

    No Strings Attached did not bomb and that should be put on Nat’s shoulders. Now, if that movie is crap, that may not help the three other movies she has coming out in the next four months, or people love her so much at the moment it won’t matter. Whateverthecase, Nat is hot as hell right now and that’s pretty awesome that the rest of the country finally figured that out.

  6. Portman probably deserves credit, but the $20 million opening falls right in Ashton Kutcher’s median average when dealing with commercial fare such as this (What Happens in Vegas, Guess Who, etc). Out of fifteen wide-release openers, 7 of them opened between $17 and $23 million. Killers, with $15 million, was just as much an anomaly on his box office filmography as Valentine’s Day (which, ensemble cast aside, he WAS the lead) opening with $56 million. Comparably, this opening is Natalie Portman’s (probably) second biggest ever outside of the Star Wars franchise. V For Vendetta pulled in $25 million five years ago, and the next highest is the $9.6 million opening for Mr. Magorium’s Wonder Emporium.

    As long as he’s not making a $70 million spy comedy, Kutcher is a reliable draw for reasonably-budgeted pictures such as this one (No Strings Attached cost $25 million). As for Portman, this may indeed be the start of her career as a genuine box office draw (Black Swan is already her biggest-grossing non-Star Wars picture ever), but that remains to be seen.

    It’s also worth nothing that this is Ivan Reitman’s biggest opening weekend in 22 years, after Ghostbusters II, which actually set the record for opening weekend with $29 million in June 1989… if only for a single week. And, in equally useless stats, Cary Elwes is BACK! Two $20 million+ openers in just under three months (after his buzz-building supporting turn in Saw 3D)!

  7. sanj says:

    i finally saw 127 hours – it could have been cut by 15 minutes to make it even better ..

    this movie belongs on Discovery channel with like 25 repeats.

    also i got the Lovely Day song stuck in my head

  8. IOv3 says:

    Scott, Kutcher is about as liked as a flaming bag of shit. I am going to give this one to Nat. Seriously, go read your website and that story they posted about the hatred of Kutcher to realize that guy’s on a running clock, and his wonky eye doesn’t add character to him like it does Thom Yorke.

  9. Hallick says:

    Kutcher’s been hateable for all the years his movies have been turning a profit, so that isn’t much of an arguement against his box office, ummm…clout?

    Britney Spears is an earth-wide joke and plenty of people would pay good money to watch her fall face first into an active volcano, but look who’s got the number one song on Billboard’s Hot 100 right now. Look at the iTunes chart right now. So, what then? Any publicity’s still good publicity?

  10. IOv3 says:

    Hallick, after last year, I think it’s clear that Kutcher has lost a lot of his box office clout. This alone is why NSA aka FUCK BUDDIES making some coin has to go to Portman. Especially given that people love the hell out of her right now.

    Now, Britney, she makes pop music, and her pop music is not horrible. Unlike Kutcher, she has pretty much kept herself low key and when she does pop up, she puts out a decent pop song.

  11. actionman says:

    just watched paper man — really enjoyed it. loving emma stone at the current moment. jeff daniels needs to work more. ryan reynolds nailed it.

  12. scooterzz says:

    “i finally saw 127 hours – it could have been cut by 15 minutes to make it even better ..”

    yes, but, ‘126 hours and 45 minutes’ is just too long a title…..

  13. Samuel Deter says:

    Ha, funny scooterzz

  14. IOv3 says:

    Get on board the King’s Speech now David. COME ON! GET ON BOARD THE KING TRAIN!

  15. Joe Leydon says:

    Enjoyed The Green Hornet. But I suspect I would have enjoyed it even more if I hadn’t paid extra for 3-D IMAX. (BTW: There were lots and lots of empty seats in the IMAX theater where I saw it Saturday night.)

    On an unrelated note: Am I the last person to grasp that Just Go With it actually is a remake of Cactus Flower with Adam Sandler in the Walter Matthau part — and Jennifer Aniston in Ingrid Bergman’s role?

  16. scooterzz says:

    i just rewatched a screener of ‘green hornet’ and have to admit that it’s a pretty decent matinee movie….
    re: ‘just go with it’ — abe burrows and ial diamond are spinning in their graves…

  17. scooterzz says:

    actually, now that i’ve reconsidered my previous snarky remark…what about a remake of ‘the apartment’ starring adam sandler and drew barrymore (jack lemmon and shirley maclaine) and co-starring vince vaughn (fred macmurray), jon favreau (jack kruschen) and neil patrick harris (ray walston)….. i think this would work….

  18. IOv3 says:

    Scoot, I will let the Green Hornet love go, but DON’T YOU DARE BRING REMAKING THE APARTMENT WITH FUCKING ADAM SANDLER!!! THERE IS A LINE SCOOT, AND THAT FUCKING CROSSES IT! You crossed it, scoot. You freaking crossed it! Now I am just mad and confused and even more confused by bringing up ADAM SANDER IN COMPARSION TO JACK LEMMON!) CONFUSED AND SAD!

  19. cadavra says:

    Scoot: Are you TRYING to kill us?

  20. scooterzz says:

    yep, i think it’s do-able and i’m sticking to it…and, if it kills y’all…well, that’s just gravy…
    i’m also working on a remake of ‘whatever happened to baby jane’ starring the olsen twins…

  21. yancyskancy says:

    Seriously, scooter — obviously the Lemmon role has got to go to Rob Schneider.

  22. scooterzz says:

    naw, schneider lacks the nuance that sandler has mastered…perhaps spade?…no…sitcoms have sullied him…gotta be sandler AND he should insist that dennis dugan direct a la billy wilder….

  23. IOv3 says:

    Scoot, you are a mean lady. A very mean mean lady. 🙁

  24. scooterzz says:

    fuck you, io….

  25. leahnz says:

    i must admit to an unexpected thrill and doing a little internal jig when i saw ‘king’s speech’ took out the PGA.

    now part of me is really hoping any movie will beat out that insufferable pack of fast-talking whiny entitled pricks for the oscar — i can’t remember ever having activity rooted against a movie for best pic, because i don’t give a shit usually, it’s a strange sensation to want to see a movie fail and lose so i’ll feel absurdly and irrationally vindicated (and at the same time i feel guilt-ridden about it, being the normally firm fincher fan that i am – even if he’s gone from a good run to a stumble for me with his last two efforts… my emotions are all akimbo)

  26. sanj says:

    somebody should make a tv series about vampires + 24 tv series ..

    where vampires actually do crazy stuff and it just gets crazier ..

    no slow vampires . no boring vampires like twilight ..

    just a great story with amazing visuals . have David Fincher direct this .

  27. movieman says:

    Instead of a remake of “The Apartment,” what about a movie version of “Promises, Promises”? I seem to recall talk of a “PP” film back in the late ’70s with Travolta and (talk about a blast from the past!) Linda Ronstadt.
    Hey, just an idea.
    And if Just Go For It” is an unofficial re-boot of “Cactus Flower,” which role does Nicole Kidman play? Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I won’t believe Nic’s actually in the movie until I see her face in the trailer or her name in the one-sheet.

  28. anghus says:

    i liked the kings’ speech. but it was kind of narrow. There wasn’t a lot to it. it was entertaining, but i’m almost puzzled by the rousing award campaign and the passion being generated in print.

  29. yancyskancy says:

    movieman: Nicole Kidman’s role is “Devlin Adams.” Does that help? According to the lone user post on the imdb page, Dave Matthews plays her boyfriend. Others in the diverse cast include Heidi Montag (God, please let it be a blink-and-you-miss-it cameo) and Branscombe Richmond of RENEGADE.

    A PROMISES, PROMISES movie might get me into the theater, ’cause I love the Bacharach. How many people remember (or know) that Jerry Orbach played the lead on Broadway? I bet there are still people who are surprised he’s the voice of Lumiere in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.

  30. Krillian says:

    I miss Poland as a writer sometimes.

    Just saw King’s Speech for the first time last night. It was really good, to the point that I’d be okay with it winning. I’d just like some suspense on Academy day, unlike the past couple years.

  31. Joe Leydon says:

    Yancy: I had the pleasure of interviewing Jerry Orbach while he was on Broadway in 42nd Street (around the time he also appeared on screen in Prince of the City). And you’re right: Most people — particularly people who didn’t become fans until Orbach began his long run in Law and Order — don’t know much, if anything, about his background in musical theater. Years ago, I had a friend who was a serious L&O fan who didn’t believe me when I told her about Orbach’s background. I actually had to download some 42nd Street tunes from Napster to convince her. LOL.

  32. movieman says:

    Yancy- Considering the efforts Sony has taken to keep Kidman hidden in the movie’s trailer(s), the whole thing is beginning to seem like some giant hoax.
    Again, not to belabor a point I already made previously, but what is the theory behind keeping Kidman’s participation in the film a secret? Is it just a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it cameo, or did her role get cut from the movie?
    Guess we’ll find out in a few weeks.

  33. One of the MANY cool bits in Waking Sleeping Beauty: watching Jerry Orbach and Agnella Lansbury together in the recording booth rehearsing a tune (“Be Our Guest”?) from Beauty and the Beast. Other (un)cool bit: an extended deleted scene on the DVD with a very young Tim Burton basically being harassed at his drawing desk by other Disney animators. It’s intended as good-natured, but Burton looks like the kid who is wondering if the bullies are just going to steal his lunch money or beat him up too.

  34. IOv3 says:

    Scoot, if you are really just cursing me out then fuck you right back :P. If not, USE A FREAKING EMOTICON! Come on! SEE? :D! THEY REALLY WORK!

    Leah, now you understand.

    Anghus: those speeches helped the Brits endure during WWII. If that’s narrow then how much more scope do you need? The King’s Speech is everything an Oscar film should be. Why David missed out on this is reason enough for a column!

  35. sanj says:

    DP is going crazy with DP/30’s …4 in a day with new people . thats 2 hours of 100% free content.

    DP – you should force people to watch a movie trailer ..if it helps pay for these things.

    movie banners ads are boring – are people lazy they won’t sit through a few movie trailers on movie websites ?

  36. leahnz says:

    the most disturbing thing about the ‘TSN’ oscar ad blitz?

    the use of the quote, “this is america, right here, right now” (or something to that effect). really? a boy’s club of shallow back-stabbing whiny narcissistic privileged assholes “is america” right here, right now? how delightful. the glorification of this movie is somehow deeply unsettling to me, it’s beautifully made and well performed but a rather cold, nasty, empty snake-in-the-grass examination of human nature, that it’s so beloved sort of freaks me out, really.

    (fwiw i don’t necessarily want ‘king’s speech’ to win best pic; i’ve just seen it along with a bit of a barrage of the other supposed front-runners for best pic – and still have the swan and the grit to go, the last of the bunch to arrive – and i still need to process everything. i just know that i’m rooting against ‘TSN’, and i’m not proud of it. but i’m rooting for the underdogs this time out in a big way)

  37. anghus says:

    leah, yes.

    that is america right now. self indulgent. ideologically bankrupt. entitled assholes desperate for fame, attention, and wealth.

  38. leahnz says:

    aww. that makes me want to give you guys a big hug and make it all better

  39. sanj says:

    more women that should be Catwoman

    Gabourey Sidibe – this academy award nominee can do something different

    Mellisa Leo – can always play different roles . lets see how this goes.

    Sarah Jessica Parker – since SATC 3 isn’t happening ..lets see what happens ..

    i have the best ideas – hollywood feel free to copy these ideas

  40. anghus says:

    im curious to hear how the red state auction went.

  41. Krillian says:

    I’m just glad TSN has Eduardo in the middle.

  42. yancyskancy says:

    sanj: I can’t believe you left off Betty White, Elle Fanning, Linda Hunt, RuPaul and so many other viable Catwoman candidates.

  43. IOv3 says:

    Anghus, Kevin Smith just turned heel on the distributors of this country. He’s really fucking lost it.

  44. NickF says:

    It’s a done deal. His mind has turned to mush.

  45. IOv3 says:

    It’s not mush as much as he’s FIGHTING AGAINST THE SYSTEM FOR NO REASON OUTSIDE HE THINKS HE CAN! Seriously, he thinks he can and he decided to do this in front of people there to DISTRIBUTE HIS FUCKING MOVIE! Jesus fucking Christ, this makes me want to sell all of his movies just BECAUSE I CAN!

  46. christian says:

    People attacking Kevin Smith like he beat up their grandmother for pulling a Tom Laughlin…just reveals the fundamental infantility of most online denizens. Bizarre.

  47. IOv3 says:

    Christian, uh no. Kevin Smith had execs from four or five studios there. If they were brought in good faith to bid on his film and he did this shit, he deserves the bashing that he’s getting. If all of those execs were complicit in Kevin giving himself 20 bucks for the film then they are just as douchy as he is.

    Seriously, what he did last night is such a fuck you to a system that’s made him a good living for close to 20 years and to do it in front of people who wanted his film. It’s just gawdy and a needless fuck you move, when a fuck you move was not warranted.

    Wow. Billy Jack. Keeping it current for the kids, Christian :D?

  48. christian says:

    “Jeepers, William Castle pulls a fast one. No thousand buck insurance policy in case of death by fright for MACABRE! Heard ‘Percepto’ for upcoming monster flick is just a seat buzzer. Never again, Bill!”

    – anonymous tweet, 1958

  49. IOv3 says:

    Yeah because that shit wouldn’t fly today much like the THEY DON’T SERVE BEER IN HELL model will not work for Kevin. The dude seriously should have hooked up with Magnolia and have Red State treated like Monsters. Instead of sound reasoning and logic, we have a man angered by the way Cop Out was treated last year, responding with this nonsense .

    I just hope David responds to it in a serious way and not in his “Fuck that! It’s stupid!” way.

  50. christian says:

    Regardless of the merits (or demerits) of COP OUT or RED STATE, I don’t know see what’s so terrible about an alternative distribution mode. The poutage is revealing though, a definite streak of corporate kowtowing with “who are they to buck the system?”

  51. IOv3 says:

    Christian, it’s not WHO ARE THEY TO BUCK THE SYSTEM as much as it’s WHO ARE THEY TO BUCK THE SYSTEM WITH A SHIT MOVIE? It’s a novel thought and all but he list himself as an AVERAGE FILMMAKER. That right there tells you all you need to know about this endeavor. This is not a quality flick from a quality talent. This is a guy who lacks follow-through and has decided that if he can only get to so much money domestically. He’d rather do it by himself and get all the marbles BY HIMSELF.

    Nothing wrong with wanting all the marbles. There is something wrong with setting up a sham auction, getting people there to bid on it, and then pretty much flipping them off in front of a theatre full of people. That’s just plain douchey. It’s the type of douchey that pisses people off and it’s this sham that has seemingly got everyone’s ire up. Also, what happened with Frosty over at Collider didn’t help the situation at all.

    Seriously, all of those guys know one another, and if they banded together to stop discussing Smith because of this. Well, yeah, Smith fucked himself over big time.

  52. Krillian says:

    Maybe Smith needs an intervention.

    “No, really. Cop Out was a terrible movie. This isn’t a conspiracy.”

  53. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:

    I’ve never liked Smith or his movies much, but as a horror geek I am looking forward to seeing Red State. The reviews I’ve read so far are mixed to positive, with one glaring exception, Drew’s. He bashes the flick and makes it personal, seemingly allowing his personal animosity towards Smith cloud his feelings and writing. He even manages to plus the pretty shitty Masters of Horror episode he co-wrote in the process. Is this really considered criticism? How can a reader with half a brain take this seriously when he reviews the filmmaker as much as the film? Is this going to be a common reaction to Smith and his work now? Has the tide fully turned on him?

  54. anghus says:

    Kevin Smith during his Sundance meltdown: “”Indie film isn’t dead, it just grew up. It is just indie film 2.0 now. In indie film 2.0, we don’t let them sell our movie, we sell our movie ourselves.” Does he think this is a novel concept? Hate to tell ya Kev, but there’s a lot of people that have been doing this for years. And without the benefit of almost 10 releases from a major distributor prior to taking a new movie out on the road. The only reason people will care about Red State is because he had his work distributed and pushed by studios. And i won’t deny that he’s done a fantastic job of marketing himself. But it’s only because Miramax grabbed Clerks… it’s only because the Weinsteins gave him an outlet, that anyone knows who he is in the first place.

    If this was his first film, no one would care. For a guy who has benefited so much from the mechanics of the industry, he seems almost oblivious to how it works. It’s kind of sad. The guy spent his last 2 movies trying to be accepted by the mainstream film industry. He did Zach and Miri Make a Porno which he spent a lot of time analyzing because he felt Judd Apatow had stolen his shtick. Then he does a film with Seth Rogen and hoped for Knocked Up numbers. Natch. Then he does Cop Out, which seemed to be an attempt to seem viable as a guy capable of doing studio pics. We all know how that turned out. Now he seems to have jumped on the Eli Roth indie horror schlock motif, but that’s hardly novel 5 years later.

    Smith seems to have become the kind of bitter, perpetually angry presence that he used to rail against online. I hope he does retire. This constant reinvention thing has lost it’s luster. And the theatrics are becoming an embarrassment. Who heard the sentence “Kevin Smith is going to auction his new movie off at Sundance right after the screening” and didn’t cringe.

    It is fitting. His career started at Sundance. Why not have it end there as well?

  55. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:

    Well-said anghus. He does seem to have become exactly what he used to rail against.

  56. christian says:

    I think it’s the online nerds who have turned against themselves. What is Drew so angry about?

  57. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:

    I don’t know Christian. Does he really think Smith rips off his Masters of Horror episode? His “review” is way more personal attack than critical analysis.

  58. christian says:

    I mean, if Drew didn’t like RED STATE, that’s his opine. But to act like watching a new Kevin Smith film at Sundance replete with showmanship type announcement ruined his evening and set his stomach into turmoil — well, somebody has lost all perspective. And didn’t Drew once lie to an audience about the reality of THE POUGHKEEPSIE TAPES?

  59. Hopscotch says:

    I’m having mixed feelings on this episode as well. And I don’t care for Kevin Smith or his movies, and his “Convos with Kevin Smith” should really be called “Name Dropping by Kevin Smith”.

    He wants to distribute his movie on his own. Good for him. It’ll be a challenge, he clearly believes in the project. Best o luck.

    He also CLEARLY wasted people’s time with his announcement. That’s pretty obvious and his defenders have nothing to sell on this point. That was a shitty, famous-person thing to do. I’m really curious how this will play out.

  60. christian says:

    Why is it wasting people’s time? A few distribs show up at a film festival they’re already at, and have something to chat about over drinks. Or angrily tweet about. Sounds like people are outraged that golden tickets were not distributed to the usual suspects.

    “Kevin Smith Isn’t Saving Indie Film, He’s Spitting In Its Face ”

    I mean, what to do with such infantile insight from Faraci? And I’m not a big fan of Smith’s films but I think he’s had more positive effect on saving indie film than say, Devin. Or Drew.

  61. Joe Leydon says:

    If he’s successful with Red State, do you think he’ll want to go back and independently re-release Jersey Girl?

  62. Paul MD (Stella's Boy) says:

    Don’t give him any ideas Joe.

  63. anghus says:

    you’re first mistake: you read Faraci.

    and yes, drew did lie to an audience about Poughkepsie. As to what he’s so angry about, who knows? Why are any of these 40 year old nerds so damn bitter?

    oh, and hopscotch. i hope he does well with the project, but come on. his first screening is at radio city music hall. these are not the trappings of the low budget filmmaker, but the rewards for a guy who played the game, took the goodwill he got and spun it into a micro empire of speaking engagements and merchandising.

    why does Smith believe the industry and the critics have abandoned him?

    because people didn’t universally praise Cop Out? Because he feels people flocked to adult themed stoner comedies like 40 Year Old Virgin and Knocked Up and didn’t care about Zach and Miri make a porno.

    I don’t know who Kevin Smith is fighting. But i’m starting to think it’s himself.

  64. anghus says:

    man. the guy is quickly devolving into randy quaid STAR WHAKER territory. his interpretation of reality and everyone else’s are so remarkably different.

    it’s gonna be an interesting year.

  65. IOv3 says:

    Paul, I took Drew referencing his film as stating that someone has made something like this before and did it just as comparable. He did not even praise his film, he just stated that he did it, and there’s nothing really special about it or Red State.

    Why are they so angry? It’s easy. Kevin Smith is a douche. He’s a douche that blamed the MEDIA for all of his problems last year, when we now know that he lashed out at them because he couldn’t lash out at Willis. He then waste their time with this farce auction, and now they are venting their anger towards him.

    I just wish the dude did not become a douche and it seems all of these folks feel the same way.

  66. Hopscotch says:

    Exactly. Had smith, as Drew suggested, made a statement that he’d like to release this film using different methods because he does not like the traditional acquisition treatment, the press today would be much different. But no, he pulled a stunt. A stunt he knew full well would create publicity so he could kick off this idea to tour the states with the film.

    I feel that the Southwest Airlines episode is what did it in, if I could offer my psychological analysis. Smith makes fun of both his weight and his movies in public forums like talk shows, so he’s not delusional about it and knows its fair game.

    But how he tweeted about it and then posted a 2 1/1 hour podcast on the subject, and how personal he took it…I think something snapped.

  67. christian says:

    I love that Devin and Drew said Smith turned the screening into “a circus.” At a film fest built around frenzied acquisition gossip. A carnival having a circus. The horror!

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